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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-28-2011, 10:00 PM
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Graphically COD should be head and shoulders above the other two using directx 10, the fact it isn't
CoD IS head and shoulders above the other two. I have no idea why you think it isn't. This isn't even a close call.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:13 PM
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CoD IS head and shoulders above the other two. I have no idea why you think it isn't. This isn't even a close call.
Quite a few people, myself included, disagree. Some things in CoD look simply outstanding, others look merely "ok-ish". I have recently re-installed WoP and while it does indeed get boring quickly I thought the environment grafics were indeed at least on par with CoD. I admit I have less of a problem with the "cinematic" filters in WoP than with the strange colour palette in CoD.

But then the fact that CoD isn't the grafical leap forward I had hoped for after all this time isn't even remotely the sim's biggest problem at the moment.

But then CoD will improve, I don't doubt it. And until then I'm back to flying DCS:A-10C.

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Old 04-28-2011, 10:22 PM
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Quite a few people, myself included, disagree.
I know. And I find that amazing, because it is so obviously wrong. WoP is a green hazy mess. If you think it looks better than CoD it is because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD.

I bought WoP. I know what it looks like. It looks like crap.

Like I said. This is not even a close call.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:33 PM
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"If you think it looks better than CoD it is because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD."


Actually, dont have to look hard at all. Thats freakin hilarious
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:46 PM
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From what I've seen and played. Nothing compares to CoD down low. The problem is, of course, is having the hardware to show off all those details down low
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:53 PM
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I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:59 PM
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I fly frequently irl I hold an PPL/ir with NQ, and often see atmospheric haze, it is quite different from the air than on the ground, particularly near cities when you add industrial output and traffic smog into the mix, seasons too have an effect, around harvest for example the atmosphere can take on a distinct yellow hue. However, I never claimed wop was totally realistic, I said it was more realistic than no haze at all.
Wait, are you saying there's no haze in cod? I have haze.

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As for the shots, yes, on cranking up the game and being amazed at how it looked, I used playback to get screen shots just like most other gamers do to take screen shots from different perspectives. Every shot I posted was taken directly in mission or directly after; or have you never used an external view in a flight sim, when you have been impressed with what you have seen, as for the shots themselves, I have not had the game installed for nearly a year as the fm was too arcade for me.
Of course, but my point is that wop doesn't look anywhere near as good from the players viewpoint, ie; in the pit. It looks good, just not as good as external shots do, obviously that is just my opinion

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I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon
Download the demo
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:36 AM
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I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon
No really, don't bother. It looks really good and, who knows, might even in a reincarnation be something to think about as the devs are considering taking it to another level, but as it stands it's as deep as a puddle. The Paris Hilton of flight sims.

Now if RoF could come up with a Mk. Vb and a 109F they would have my attention.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:35 AM
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I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon
Yeah I really can't recommend it. It does look nice, but everything else but that about the game is really primitive. The flight model is actually pretty close to IL-2 with everything on, but the damage model is a joke. It's like... 5 damageable sections on your plane or something. The maps are also the size of a postage stamp, and all the missions are all designed to be played on arcade with infinite ammo/lives.

Oh and multiplayer is essentially broken.
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Old 04-28-2011, 11:01 PM
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because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD.

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Finding problems in COD is as easy as turning it on, it is plagued with problems.

Graphically it is also full of 2d sprites (8 bit graphics technique) everywhere the devs think they can get away with them to get frame rates up, you might want to take off those rose coloured specs and apply the same analytical eye you used for wop.

However, do not misunderstand I want COD to succeed, but claiming it is head and shoulders above everything else is frankly childish and complete fantasy.

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