CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Quite a few people, myself included, disagree.

I know. And I find that amazing, because it is so obviously wrong. WoP is a green hazy mess. If you think it looks better than CoD it is because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD.

I bought WoP. I know what it looks like. It looks like crap.

Like I said. This is not even a close call.

[ctec1]

"If you think it looks better than CoD it is because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD."


Actually, dont have to look hard at all. Thats freakin hilarious

[ATAG_Bliss]

From what I've seen and played. Nothing compares to CoD down low. The problem is, of course, is having the hardware to show off all those details down low

[danjama]

I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Blue Scorpion

I fly frequently irl I hold an PPL/ir with NQ, and often see atmospheric haze, it is quite different from the air than on the ground, particularly near cities when you add industrial output and traffic smog into the mix, seasons too have an effect, around harvest for example the atmosphere can take on a distinct yellow hue. However, I never claimed wop was totally realistic, I said it was more realistic than no haze at all.

Wait, are you saying there's no haze in cod? I have haze.

As for the shots, yes, on cranking up the game and being amazed at how it looked, I used playback to get screen shots just like most other gamers do to take screen shots from different perspectives. Every shot I posted was taken directly in mission or directly after; or have you never used an external view in a flight sim, when you have been impressed with what you have seen, as for the shots themselves, I have not had the game installed for nearly a year as the fm was too arcade for me.

Of course, but my point is that wop doesn't look anywhere near as good from the players viewpoint, ie; in the pit. It looks good, just not as good as external shots do, obviously that is just my opinion

Originally Posted by danjama

I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon

Download the demo

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Dano

Wait, are you saying there's no haze in cod? I have haze.

Well, the haze in CoD is not there to cover the fact that the map ends "around the corner" at least It's there to give the effect all pilots know about - that the earth below almost all days is seen through a "milky" filter of haze. Many times when you go above the "haze" it's like going up through from water into the air. Below is the haze layer and a sharp limit where above that the air is crystal clear. Especially in summer time...

Down low - France visible at the horizon


Or up high:

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by mazex

Well, the haze in CoD is not there to cover the fact that the map ends "around the corner" at least It's there to give the effect all pilots know about - that the earth below almost all days is seen through a "milky" filter of haze. Many times when you go above the "haze" it's like going up through from water into the air. Below is the haze layer and a sharp limit where above that the air is crystal clear. Especially in summer time...

Down low - France visible at the horizon


Or up high:

Mazex, that last shot is gorgeous.
One thing I have noticed about CoD is that, at low altitude, everything is almost crystal clear during most parts of the day-time. I'd actually expect to see a lot more haze, which isn't as visible as fog, but gives everything a slight luminosity (it's hard to explain).
This sums it up better; it is a filter, as far as I can see, but nothing like what WoP uses (although, on a personal note, I don't find the filter in WoP to be too degrading. I think that other maps that the BoB map in WoP show that the lanscape can look beautiful, and not like something out of a Spielberg film)

http://www.windwardmark.net/products...ology&subsub=0

It's subjective; everyone has their own idea of what makes a great sim, so there's no real right or wrong when colours are largely modelled realistically.

[Ploughman]

Originally Posted by danjama

I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon

No really, don't bother. It looks really good and, who knows, might even in a reincarnation be something to think about as the devs are considering taking it to another level, but as it stands it's as deep as a puddle. The Paris Hilton of flight sims.

Now if RoF could come up with a Mk. Vb and a 109F they would have my attention.

[Space Communist]

Originally Posted by danjama

I actually think WoP looks fantastic in those pictures, and will probably surprise myself and buy it soon

Yeah I really can't recommend it. It does look nice, but everything else but that about the game is really primitive. The flight model is actually pretty close to IL-2 with everything on, but the damage model is a joke. It's like... 5 damageable sections on your plane or something. The maps are also the size of a postage stamp, and all the missions are all designed to be played on arcade with infinite ammo/lives.

Oh and multiplayer is essentially broken.

[Blue Scorpion]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

because you are really desperately looking for problems in CoD.

.

Finding problems in COD is as easy as turning it on, it is plagued with problems.

Graphically it is also full of 2d sprites (8 bit graphics technique) everywhere the devs think they can get away with them to get frame rates up, you might want to take off those rose coloured specs and apply the same analytical eye you used for wop.

However, do not misunderstand I want COD to succeed, but claiming it is head and shoulders above everything else is frankly childish and complete fantasy.