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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

quoting one of my favourite movies, "Opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks", so yes, we all have an opinion, the point is whether this opinion is an informed one or not.

I can say "hey, I don't like what you guys at the Large Hadron Collider are doing cos you're gonna make a black hole and we'll be all swallowed by it", but it's obvious that if my opinion is not based on substantial evidence they might as well laugh at it. Then the Government gets scared cos I start a mad campaign against it, the population really thinks the LHC will cause the Armageddon, and they decide to shut it down for good..

And yes, before you say it I know that there's no comparison between firearms and the LHC, I'm just making an example on how the will of a majority can indeed be wrong and driven by laziness and sheep attitude (it's easier to read on The Sun about the remote theoretical dangerous potential of a piece of machinery we don't actually know anything about than getting a PhD in Astrophysics..)

Yes, society makes choices, but you know they're not all good ones, and the disarming the population is a bad, bad one.

Ok.. So my opinion less 'informed' because I don't handle guns regularly?
My opinion is informed, you're patronising me and also assuming I'm stupid simply because I disagree with you. Like I said before, bigoted.

Why can't you stick to what we're talking about? LHC ? What? Stop throwing out all these decoys.

If you relax the laws on gun ownership, at some point in the future someone who shouldn't have a gun will get one legally, not a criminal, a regular person who appears normal, then has a bad day. As far as I can recall, Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria were all carried out by people with access to legally held firearms and all, interestingly, in rural areas. Away from the big cities with the gangs and guns, these people were all seen as normal law abiding citizens.

You say on one hand that the police/government are incompetent, yet these same people would be, and are responsible for licencing guns, what makes you think that they will get it right. You already showed you have no faith in them. The only way is to make it very, very hard to legally own a gun.

You're pretty good at name calling and character asassination, but when it comes down to why you think the law is wrong you've got nothing to say.

So come on, what would be your ideal criteria for gun ownership, for regular people? (let me guess... a criteria that includes you?)