4.11 General debugging

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by idefix44

In the attached file "Reds kill Reds.zip" are 2 files.
MarethLine43194602200.mis & MarethLine43194602200.properties.
Using the FMB you can see in B4 2 red AA and 1 red moving trucks column.
Running the mission in dogfight server mode and using the static camera you can see that the red moving trucks column is destroyed by the red AAs.
If you use a red plane and destroy the static objects, server say Ennemy AA destroyed. They are all red...

Any idea about this problem ?

I looked at the mission and there is a very simple explanation. The AA gun is really not 'shooting at' the friendly vehicle. It is shooting at an enemy target to the north. The friendly vehicle simply moves in front of the shooting artillery gun and gets destroyed.

It is basically a small error on the part of the mission builder for placing the vehicle waypoint so close the the friendly AA gun. It gets so close to the gun that it gets in the line of fire and is hit.

It is easy to prove this. Simply move the first waypoint of the vehicle convoy so it does not come so close to the AA gun. You will see that the AA gun still fires in the same direction as before (at a distant Blue target). However, this time the friendly vehicle is not hit.

Problem solved.....no bug.

Concerning your second issue: "If you use a red plane and destroy the static objects, server say Ennemy AA destroyed. They are all red..."

If you look at the mission in the FMB there are many Blue static objects. You are incorrect when you stated "They are all red...". You must have destroyed friendly units. I personally flew a Red plane in the mission and destroyed Red artillery units and the message I got was 'Friendly AAA Destroyed'.

So again, I do not see a problem.

Aviar

[idefix44]

Ok.
I'll record a track...

[Lagarto]

Originally Posted by Aviar

Problem solved.....no bug.
Aviar

I would still consider it a bug. Recently I've had to remove AA from my own airfield, because they were insanely firing at some distant target, hitting friendly aircraft on the runway. It's a ridiculous situation that shouldn't happen.
I'd rather see AA not engage ground targets at all.

[idefix44]

In the attached file "Reds kill Reds Part 2.zip" are 5 files.

MarethLine43194602200.mis
MarethLine43194602200.properties
You can use the FMB to open MarethLine43194602200.mis.

The location.jpg
A view of the 2 red AAA position with 2 red wagon8 from the FMB. A red moving trucks column start from here too.

The eventlog.lst
In the record my nickname is NAST-idefix44.
I take off with a Spit Mk IX from E3.
I fly to B4.
At 6:00 I attack the RED-FMB position. a truck, 2 wagon8 and 2 AAA.
All destroyed.
At 8:00 I attack and destroy 3 BLUE-FMB wagon8 on the base.

I repeat, the objects destroyed at 6:00 are red, the object destroyed at 8:00 are blue. I use a red plane. The 2 times the server said ennemy objects destroyed. And you can see the wrecks of the RED-FMB moving trucks column destroyed by the RED-FMB AAA.

The 5th file is the .ntrk.
Run the track, you can see all what I mean.

I persist. Here is a bug. Or record a track...

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by idefix44

In the attached file "Reds kill Reds Part 2.zip" are 5 files.

MarethLine43194602200.mis
MarethLine43194602200.properties
You can use the FMB to open MarethLine43194602200.mis.

The location.jpg
A view of the 2 red AAA position with 2 red wagon8 from the FMB. A red moving trucks column start from here too.

The eventlog.lst
In the record my nickname is NAST-idefix44.
I take off with a Spit Mk IX from E3.
I fly to B4.
At 6:00 I attack the RED-FMB position. a truck, 2 wagon8 and 2 AAA.
All destroyed.
At 8:00 I attack and destroy 3 BLUE-FMB wagon8 on the base.

I repeat, the objects destroyed at 6:00 are red, the object destroyed at 8:00 are blue. I use a red plane. The 2 times the server said ennemy objects destroyed. And you can see the wrecks of the RED-FMB moving trucks column destroyed by the RED-FMB AAA.

The 5th file is the .ntrk.
Run the track, you can see all what I mean.

I persist. Here is a bug. Or record a track...

Having a very close look at this mission right now. Something is definitely amiss but I haven't figure out what yet. There are a lot of neutral objects on the map which is highly unusual but I'm not sure if that's the cause. There is definitely something wrong with the teams as I too took off from a Red base and flew to the Red forward position and was fired on and received enemy destroyed when I attacked the what appeared to be Red objects. They aren't neutral objects according to the .mis file.

How was this file created? By DCG? There's a lot of extra DCG references in the .mis file that I don't know very well. Perhaps one of those is causing some sort of AI related bug although I have no good ideas as to why. Variables are variables unless there is specific line parsing that is broken. Pure speculation on my part.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by idefix44

In the attached file "Reds kill Reds Part 2.zip" are 5 files.

MarethLine43194602200.mis
MarethLine43194602200.properties
You can use the FMB to open MarethLine43194602200.mis.

The location.jpg
A view of the 2 red AAA position with 2 red wagon8 from the FMB. A red moving trucks column start from here too.

The eventlog.lst
In the record my nickname is NAST-idefix44.
I take off with a Spit Mk IX from E3.
I fly to B4.
At 6:00 I attack the RED-FMB position. a truck, 2 wagon8 and 2 AAA.
All destroyed.
At 8:00 I attack and destroy 3 BLUE-FMB wagon8 on the base.

I repeat, the objects destroyed at 6:00 are red, the object destroyed at 8:00 are blue. I use a red plane. The 2 times the server said ennemy objects destroyed. And you can see the wrecks of the RED-FMB moving trucks column destroyed by the RED-FMB AAA.

The 5th file is the .ntrk.
Run the track, you can see all what I mean.

I persist. Here is a bug. Or record a track...

The Red position I described attacking in my first post is the same position you attack in your track. So, we are both attacking the same Red units with a Red plane. As you can see by the screenshot I have attached, the messages I get on my computer are correct.

I am destroying Red units with a Red Army plane. The messages say 'Friendly Train Car: Destroyed' and 'Friendly AAA: Destroyed'.

These messages are correct. I'm not sure why the messages you are getting are different.

Aviar

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Aviar

The Red position I described attacking in my first post is the same position you attack in your track. So, we are both attacking the same Red units with a Red plane. As you can see by the screenshot I have attached, the messages I get on my computer are correct.

I am destroying Red units with a Red Army plane. The messages say 'Friendly Train Car: Destroyed' and 'Friendly AAA: Destroyed'.

These messages are correct. I'm not sure why the messages you are getting are different.

Aviar

It's weird Aviar. I'm seeing the same thing he is... enemy destroyed messages. My first tip off that something was amiss was when the 40mm Bofors battery started firing at me.

We're all running stock 4.11.1 yes?

[idefix44]

I have the same problem using IL2 1946 4.11.1m Dedicated Server and IL2 1946 4.11.1m Client hosting the mission in dogfight mode. Dedicated Server and Client are stock versions.
It seems that Aviar don't test the mission in dogfight server mode...
No connection gauge in the upper right corner of his screenshot.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by idefix44

I have the same problem using IL2 1946 4.11.1m Dedicated Server and IL2 1946 4.11.1m Client hosting the mission in dogfight mode. Dedicated Server and Client are stock versions.
It seems that Aviar don't test the mission in dogfight server mode...
No connection gauge in the upper right corner of his screenshot.

Test this, I looked very quickly (didn't have time to test) and saw many errors generated by DCG and the temp runway area as well as other mission defects.

If it works ok I will explain where it might have gone wrong.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by idefix44

I have the same problem using IL2 1946 4.11.1m Dedicated Server and IL2 1946 4.11.1m Client hosting the mission in dogfight mode. Dedicated Server and Client are stock versions.
It seems that Aviar don't test the mission in dogfight server mode...
No connection gauge in the upper right corner of his screenshot.

True...I am testing this straight from the FMB (4.11.1m). As you can see, I don't have the issue in question. If you have problems and are testing this as a Dogfight map, then that may be a clue as to where the problem may be coming from.

Aviar