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Old 11-29-2011, 05:27 PM
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BlackSix sounds like a good honest guy.

What astounds me? The "non-1C" forums get a "community manager" and the "1C" forums get ? "Nothing"..... wtf?
Once again.....No reply is the remedy.

Not surprised...Not upset...adjusting interest level, downwards....again.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:51 PM
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Like it Especially about these forums being more-or-less officially recognised as 'oblivion'
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Guys, I apologize, but I will work only with Russian forums. I can read, but I do not write in English.
I will ask Ilya Shevchenko to explain you this situation in more details.

Now I write it through a translator. I think that result not the best.
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Ilya rarely communicates with us, sadly.
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BlackSix sounds like a good honest guy.

What astounds me? The "non-1C" forums get a "community manager" and the "1C" forums get ? "Nothing"..... wtf?
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Once again.....No reply is the remedy.

Not surprised...Not upset...adjusting interest level, downwards....again.
I'm not surprised !!!!

It makes sense for them to communicate with native speaking CoD users that are objective and helpful and can pass information around without any misunderstanding due to any language differences.


Perhaps there's some respect and trust for the devs there that's rarely seen here.




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Old 11-29-2011, 06:06 PM
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you sell a global product, you communicate in a global way ! how can you have it any otherway. you show a serious lack of respect here, the developers show a serious lack of respect too. not us. dont blame us, 1c sold a lemon ,a bad product.

and alpha you in practically a few words explain why were so upset here. yet throw it right back at us with blame. meanwhile suggesting it could have been another way. To the best of my understanding this forum exists as a mere formality to the publisher 1C. The fact that the very developers are in capable of doing anything here for this fan base is absolutely atrocious no matter what spin you put on us, yourselves as moderators, developers, mere passers by. Or any of the 1001 stupid arguments, slagging matches, general debating. Atrocious is the only word behind the result of anything thats been said done or intended on behalf of the game, Its `IP`, the fanbase or the franchise.

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Old 11-29-2011, 06:35 PM
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you sell a global product, you communicate in a global way ! how can you have it any otherway. you show a serious lack of respect here, the developers show a serious lack of respect too. not us. dont blame us, 1c sold a lemon ,a bad product.
Were long past this get over it, this is their forum not a place for you you insult and attack people.

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and alpha you in practically a few words explain why were so upset here. yet throw it right back at us with blame. meanwhile suggesting it could have been another way.
You will read what you want from anything and twist it to suit your whine.

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To the best of my understanding this forum exists as a mere formality to the publisher 1C. The fact that the very developers are in capable of doing anything here for this fan base is absolutely atrocious no matter what spin you put on us, yourselves as moderators, developers, mere passers by. Or any of the 1001 stupid arguments, slagging matches, general debating. Atrocious is the only word behind the result of anything thats been said done or intended on behalf of the game, Its `IP`, the fanbase or the franchise.
Another rant, the fact you are taking it so personally perhaps tells you something.

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Old 11-29-2011, 06:37 PM
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I'm not surprised !!!!

It makes sense for them to communicate with native speaking CoD users that are objective and helpful and can pass information around without any misunderstanding due to any language differences.


Perhaps there's some respect and trust for the devs there that's rarely seen here.




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are you sure? I don't think so... what respect we didn't give to the devs? are they respecting us? no... so? more pissing on us... great
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:44 PM
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are you sure? I don't think so... what respect we didn't give to the devs? are they respecting us? no... so? more pissing on us... great
Are you serious ??

They have been called everything from thieves and liars to personal insults and being ridiculed at this forum.

You wonder why they stick to a native language forum for communication , its a no brainer for me !!

Anyway they seem to be getting on great at the other forum with its members giving good support and development feedback, why you think this is a bad thing I have no idea, they are getting the help they need there.





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Old 11-29-2011, 06:51 PM
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Are you serious ??

They have been called everything from thieves and liars to personal insults and being ridiculed at this forum. Y

You wonder why they stick to a native language forum for communication , its a no brainer for me !!

Anyway they seem to be getting on great at the other forum with its members giving good support and development feedback, why you think this is a bad thing I have no idea, they are getting the help they need there.





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because the game i bought is from 1C and not from sukhoi.ru, I expected more support on this forum and I don't want use google translator to read it, because it translate like sht.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:00 PM
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because the game i bought is from 1C and not from sukhoi.ru, I expected more support on this forum and I don't want use google translator to read it, because it translate like XXX.
You do get support at this forum when Luthier posts development updates and new patch info, what more can be done, the sukhoi forum users provide direct feedback and development help in their native language, as the dev's dont all speak English it makes sense for them to be doing this, and developing a relationship via the new forum position with BlackSix.






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Old 11-29-2011, 07:07 PM
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Alpha - First of all, thank you for your free moderators work. Then, let me say that the best way to improve a troubled relationship is to open more the communication, increase transparency, set a standard of values, behavior and development and keep to it. I've never seen any improvement by merely cutting the dialogue, especially with your faithful customers.

Also, this forum has been always helpful and constructive when asked so by the devs, with info, data, documents, feedbacks and lists of bugs, not to mention the great how-tos done by simple users. On the other side of the fence, we have read many vain promises by the devs, such as a community manager, or test data of the gfx engine, and what is worse is that these unfulfilled promises were often spontaneous and unsolicited.

As a last comment, I'm aware that a widespread marketing theory blames the customers for a defective product, but its adepts normally last very little on the market.

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Old 11-29-2011, 07:10 PM
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Are you serious ??

They have been called everything from thieves and liars to personal insults and being ridiculed at this forum.
So you're basically saying, in Russian, those insults sound more polite?
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