Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[ivagiglie]

Dear DT, some of you have stated that the way to get a bad/erroneous behavior fixed is to provide "actual data", sounds reasonable.

But what does constitute enough "actual data" to ask for a change?
For the Macchi 202/205 the FM seems underrated (turning performance above all).
Unfortunately tabular data or nice graphs so readily available for American planes simply aren't there.

What can be found though are reports (like the classic Feb'43 Guidonia one with comparison against the FW and 109) and interviews of actual pilots that flew those planes or against them in combat.
I'm willing to start to collect this data and make it available if this can trigger some modifications on your side.
What do you think?

[LesniHU]

Originally Posted by ivagiglie

Dear DT, some of you have stated that the way to get a bad/erroneous behavior fixed is to provide "actual data", sounds reasonable.

But what does constitute enough "actual data" to ask for a change?
For the Macchi 202/205 the FM seems underrated (turning performance above all).
Unfortunately tabular data or nice graphs so readily available for American planes simply aren't there.

What can be found though are reports (like the classic Feb'43 Guidonia one with comparison against the FW and 109) and interviews of actual pilots that flew those planes or against them in combat.
I'm willing to start to collect this data and make it available if this can trigger some modifications on your side.
What do you think?

Its hard question what is enough and what not. Combat reports have no value when comparing turn performance, you never know enough about the adversary. Performance can be estimated from airframe geometry and engine power but that usually does not take details into account, so every report from test done under controlled conditions helps. We welcome your effort, but please be prepared that it can end in conclusion "not enough data to support such change" or "we think explanation is different" or other dead end. Please use DT email for further communication.

[ramstein]

Why not just put a thread for each aircraft type in a forum, instead of one big mess? Someone get creative and make it so the powers that be will be happy with the forum thread structure for these aircraft fix requests..


example:

Thread 1:
aircraft a) needs wings fixed. Supplied data.

Thread 2:
aircraft b) needs guns fixed, supplied data.

Thread 3:
etc..

[Daiichidoku]

Originally Posted by ramstein

Why not just put a thread for each aircraft type in a forum, instead of one big mess? Someone get creative and make it so the powers that be will be happy with the forum thread structure for these aircraft fix requests..


example:

Thread 1:
aircraft a) needs wings fixed. Supplied data.

Thread 2:
aircraft b) needs guns fixed, supplied data.

Thread 3:
etc..

+1!

[csThor]

With roundabout 300 aircraft types that would be a huge amount of threads.

[Daiichidoku]

Originally Posted by csThor

With roundabout 300 aircraft types that would be a huge amount of threads.

true, but common sense cna make it manageable;

a separate forum for ac types by family, and then only for flyable types

yak

la/lagg

mig

po

spits

hawker

mossie

38s

bell

north american

grumman (can i say that? )

40s

47s

messerschmitt

folke wulfe

heinkel

junkers

macchi

G.50

nakajima

mitsubushi

tonys


just a list off the top of my head, but shows it could be quite manageable

would only be relatively few types per thread, except yaks (which i dont think has too many problems) or 109s perhaps....but still worth considering IMHO

[ivagiglie]

Thanks LesniHU, it'll take a while to put together all the data... hopefully you (DT) are gonna be around for a long time so it's not a problem

Don't worry, I'm prepared and ok with a rejection if the data doesn't convince you, it's part of the game but I still believe it's worth a try.

I am really disappointed when reading comment from all sides (allies&axis) who flew the 202/205 describing them as "flying beautifully" and then go to IL2 basically finding myself on a truck with wings

Further communications will be by email, have a nice Sunday.