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[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by csThor

You're not acting like an adult, either, CaptStubing.

For example regarding the 0.50 issue you want to raise you pointed us at a 5-year old 35-page thread at the zoo. Now where is the documentation in that? Where is the exact naming the issue? Are we supposed to read your mind or should we bring out the crystal balls to ask the forefathers if they know what you mean? I - personally, not as a member of DT - do believe that the issues on the Fw 190 should be at least looked at, but regarding the 0.50s I'm simply at a loss. Apart from the seemingly missing M8 loadout (IIRC, that is) I don't know what is it exactly that puts some folks on edge. Is it dispersion (remember that was changed way back after a load of whining at the Zoo)? Or what is it? I, for sure, don't know so I don't see what the fuss is about.

There are plenty of screen shots and tests done to prove just that. It took an army to get some positive changes. Just like the nonsense about the muzzle flashes not be able to be addressed until a new game engine. Funny stuff aye?

It's pretty simple. I raised an issue and RC just want to sweep it under the rug.

Again I raised and issue with the the 38 and it's great to have an actual dialogue instead of being met with insults and name calling. Who is behaving like a child? I have yet to call anyone anything.

Again I mentioned certain planes breaking the sound barrier... Someone looked into it and low an behold 3 planes do it regularly so what gives? Does everyone need some sort of documentation to point out flaws with this sim? No I think not. The list is on going.

COG for the 51 is a great example. It's a well known issue that the plane models only one tank and all three tanks drain from that in order to determine COG. Funny enough that plane flies like garbage because the center tank doesn't drain first.

Is the sim perfect no but now that some effort is being put towards some new releases... Let's fix some of the most nagging problems of the sim before introducing more issues with other planes.

[WWFlybert]

TD, 97% of active IL-2 players will appreciate whatever you do to improve the sim .. no user can insist on anything .. you aren't getting paid for this

what I'm curious about, is that just a few weeks ago, the next upgrade patch was going to be 4.10 .. then it changed to 5.0

4.xx would be upgrades to IL-2 1946 .. so ..

would not 5.0 be considered a major revision usually reserved for new DvD release ?

[csThor]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

There are plenty of screen shots and tests done to prove just that.

Ah so you go to a doctor, give him a phone number and say "Call my family. They know the symptoms I've been showing." ? That sounds silly, doesn't it? But this is exactly what you're doing right now. You still haven't said upfront what you think the issue here is. No airy pointing at ancient threads, no vague statements as "There are plenty of screen shots and tests done to prove just that." Why is it so hard to say this and this may be a problem and I suspect that and that may be the reason?

And regarding adult behavior ... No, you haven't resorted to namecalling, but when reading your posts I couldn't help but "see" the major pout on your face.

[dl-3b]

Hey Capt. stubing, you arrogant b@stard, STFU!!!!

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by csThor

Ah so you go to a doctor, give him a phone number and say "Call my family. They know the symptoms I've been showing." ? That sounds silly, doesn't it? But this is exactly what you're doing right now. You still haven't said upfront what you think the issue here is. No airy pointing at ancient threads, no vague statements as "There are plenty of screen shots and tests done to prove just that." Why is it so hard to say this and this may be a problem and I suspect that and that may be the reason?

And regarding adult behavior ... No, you haven't resorted to namecalling, but when reading your posts I couldn't help but "see" the major pout on your face.

Not sure what you're talking about.... Written word is difficult to interpret so I think it's really difficult to understand someones intent especially in a world where we hit the submit reply button all too quick.

The point of pulling up the old thread was that there is a very LONG history when it comes to discussing the 50s. No I don't need them to hit like 20mms. Like everyone who flies IL2 we all want some semblance of reality. Make sense?

This whole concept of proving stuff is a double edge sword. In some cases it goes to the extreme and in the past even when Oleg was presented with information it was often overlooked or pass off as Propaganda. That's not made up stuff. I can actually understand why he took a stance at some point. A lot of stuff can be presented and it comes across as just being a Feeling or without basis. The fact is people have experience with the sim for the past 8 years and several patches and know the history and can see with their own eyes what's actually happening. Do a little testing in QMB and bingo there is your proof. Sadly some things will get overlooked but over all I think it's made IL2 what it is today.

[Gryphon_]

In order get good data as inputs to future work, I think you need your own forum, moderated by you. I don't think you'll get much value out of one thread on this forum anymore.

With your own forum you could have public and private sections for different groups, and folks would be happier about providing data and engaging in a meaningful discussion

[ECV56_Guevara]

Originally Posted by gryphon_

in order get good data as inputs to future work, i think you need your own forum, moderated by you. I don't think you'll get much value out of one thread on this forum anymore.

With your own forum you could have public and private sections for different groups, and folks would be happier about providing data and engaging in a meaningful discussion

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