Just FYI, SOW is not dead

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

As i said... there is a big difference between publishers and developers...

+1

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Feuerfalke unfortunately in your replies to posts it does come across as though you are connected to 1C in some official way,like you are some sort of spokesman for Oleg or something! We know different but some people might be confused,and think that your answers are something more than conjecture,your opinion,or something you read somewhere on a web forum.
Maybe its a language thing.

Thanks Ivan for the heads up! Rumours must be flying thick and fast for you to have to make such a post!

I doubt it's a language thing. The forum-members asking me, if I am a spokesman for Oleg do so, because I counter most of the claims and demands for information with statements already published here and on other forums.

So, while some people that stumble across this forum every once in a while to see what's the news might misinterpret my statements, people who actively participate in those threads cannot have missed where I got my informations from.

On the other hand, if understanding Olegs situation and countering some of those partially really silly posts with older quotes makes me "connected" to 1C or Oleg, I think this community really needs to relax and calm down. If we've come so far that it is community against 1C or Oleg, something went terribly wrong.

[jasonbirder]

Unfortunately…there is little or no competition within the World War 2 Combat Flight Simulation arena…there is demand from a passionate and active customer base but no supply…
Which leaves us in a situation where 1C are able to produce a game that they want to produce knowing people will end up buying it on the basis that customer choice will consist of BOB-SOW or nothing…and UBI/1C are able to completely ignore the unnecessary but courteous chore of occasionally bothering to tell people when/and or if they can expect release of the marketed product…

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Unfortunately…there is little or no competition within the World War 2 Combat Flight Simulation arena…there is demand from a passionate and active customer base but no supply…
Which leaves us in a situation where 1C are able to produce a game that they want to produce knowing people will end up buying it on the basis that customer choice will consist of BOB-SOW or nothing…and UBI/1C are able to completely ignore the unnecessary but courteous chore of occasionally bothering to tell people when/and or if they can expect release of the marketed product…

The opposite side of that, is that knowing that there isn't any serious competition, they could have fed us a constant stream of glossy hiz pictures, beat up how great the product will be and then deliver a lemon.

I know that I will buy SOW because of the great amount of enjoyment I have recieved from Olegs previous titles. While other titles gather dust on my shelf, '46 stays pretty much in my drive.

I think he and his team will do their best to deliver a high quality combat flight sim, because he thats what he has done in the past. I'ld prefer to let him get on with thier work and do the job right!

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

I doubt it's a language thing. The forum-members asking me, if I am a spokesman for Oleg do so, because I counter most of the claims and demands for information with statements already published here and on other forums.

Well, I did not think that you where connected to 1C/Maddox Games when I asked some questions above - however it seems like you have read a lot of the information available in public sources so I was interested in what you knew as I'm not always up to date and we only get tiny bits of information i different forums...

Still, I have read a number of posts where people for some reason get the impression that you have the "real information" as opposed to other peoples speculations and maybe could have some relationship with some company involved. If I where you I would think this over. Maybe adding stuff like: "From what I've read in a number of forums...", "In my opinion..." etc.

Regards /Mazex

[Feuerfalke]

@ mazex
In fact most of my statements begin with IMHO or AFAIK, or "as it was posted before", making it pretty clear that I'm not an oracle or feel anywhere close to it.

I must confess, though, that in response to some "I DEMAND" threads, I tend to answer in a similar way, without the 'flowers of speech'.


@ jasonbirder
Your post is a great example for what I just mentioned. And pretty straight forward wrong in almost any regard.
1. There are a number of simulations currently being worked on and with a release-date kept in secret to wait for competitors to do the first move. A sequel to M$ CFS is one of them, a project from Shockwave apparently about early WW2 is another. Additionally there is a WW1-sim, Knights of the Sky possibly being released in Q4 this year. http://wwiaircombat.com/
(Not to mention other jetsims and BlackShark, who might not directly compete within the same niche. )
Now, can you post any information here about the competitors? Any link? Any Q&A? Any release date? No? You didn't even know anything about them? Then how can you think releasing information about the status, content or release can help Oleg in any way? You know, it's not only the fans watching this forum.

2. If there is anybody really wanting, REALLY NEEDING to get this game a success it's not us fans, but Oleg, his team, 1C and UBI. They are feeding their families from their hard work on the game and the success they will have with it.

3. Neither Maddox, nor 1C or UBI owe us anything, nor do they hold back information to hurt anybodies personal feelings.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

The opposite side of that, is that knowing that there isn't any serious competition, they could have fed us a constant stream of glossy hiz pictures, beat up how great the product will be and then deliver a lemon.

Not like this ever happened before!

Like, well, lets make a very much fictional example, calling it, uh, Pacific Fighters, maybe?

Yeah, Maddox learned the hard way, how a direct and cheerful communication with the fans can very quickly backfire in your face.

[KG26_Alpha]

Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.

I think Feuerfalke has been quite clear that what he puts forward is based on information from this and other forums. Nothing wrong about that.
For some reason this thread has allmost turned into a 'Flame Feuerfalke'-thread. He is mainly just trying to explaine a lot of unpatient simmers like me the likely reason for the complete lack of substansial information on SOW:BOB.
I'm at an age of 38 as unpatient as a child on x-mas eve when it comes to SOW:BOB. But it's stupid to accuse Feuerfalke for Santa never showing up with gifts..

Skarphol

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.

Wrong....Pacific Fighters had everything to do with Oleg....It was a third party add-on that Olegs crew helped finish, which also delayed BOB SOW close to a year.