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Old 05-09-2008, 02:29 PM
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Unfortunately…there is little or no competition within the World War 2 Combat Flight Simulation arena…there is demand from a passionate and active customer base but no supply…
Which leaves us in a situation where 1C are able to produce a game that they want to produce knowing people will end up buying it on the basis that customer choice will consist of BOB-SOW or nothing…and UBI/1C are able to completely ignore the unnecessary but courteous chore of occasionally bothering to tell people when/and or if they can expect release of the marketed product…
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:54 PM
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Unfortunately…there is little or no competition within the World War 2 Combat Flight Simulation arena…there is demand from a passionate and active customer base but no supply…
Which leaves us in a situation where 1C are able to produce a game that they want to produce knowing people will end up buying it on the basis that customer choice will consist of BOB-SOW or nothing…and UBI/1C are able to completely ignore the unnecessary but courteous chore of occasionally bothering to tell people when/and or if they can expect release of the marketed product…
The opposite side of that, is that knowing that there isn't any serious competition, they could have fed us a constant stream of glossy hiz pictures, beat up how great the product will be and then deliver a lemon.

I know that I will buy SOW because of the great amount of enjoyment I have recieved from Olegs previous titles. While other titles gather dust on my shelf, '46 stays pretty much in my drive.

I think he and his team will do their best to deliver a high quality combat flight sim, because he thats what he has done in the past. I'ld prefer to let him get on with thier work and do the job right!
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:12 PM
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The opposite side of that, is that knowing that there isn't any serious competition, they could have fed us a constant stream of glossy hiz pictures, beat up how great the product will be and then deliver a lemon.
Not like this ever happened before!

Like, well, lets make a very much fictional example, calling it, uh, Pacific Fighters, maybe?

Yeah, Maddox learned the hard way, how a direct and cheerful communication with the fans can very quickly backfire in your face.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:20 PM
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Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:33 PM
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Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.
I think Feuerfalke has been quite clear that what he puts forward is based on information from this and other forums. Nothing wrong about that.
For some reason this thread has allmost turned into a 'Flame Feuerfalke'-thread. He is mainly just trying to explaine a lot of unpatient simmers like me the likely reason for the complete lack of substansial information on SOW:BOB.
I'm at an age of 38 as unpatient as a child on x-mas eve when it comes to SOW:BOB. But it's stupid to accuse Feuerfalke for Santa never showing up with gifts..

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Old 05-09-2008, 05:23 PM
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I think it's quite natural that shooting the messenger is always easier than accepting the message.

I'm no young-gun either, Skarphol, but I share your feelings about SoW:BoB and the reason why I am here is primarily the hope for bits of informations being released, too. But that doesn't mean I think i am the king because I will buy this game, nor do I think that Maddox, 1C or UBI do anything completely wrong or owe me anything. They're running this business for a long time and as I posted before, they are literally depending on the success of the engine and the new series. I'm not. My life will go on, even if the project is canceled. I'm not sure for some other people, though...


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Oleg had nothing to do with Pacific Fighters? That's really new to me. Maybe you can share your informations with us?
AFAIK Maddox and UBI published informations about PF pretty early and it turned out they couldn't deliver what they promised for several reasons. Some, or rather most of them were beyond Oleg's control (partially because it was 3rd Party), but it was Oleg being directly flamed for that misinformation, as well as UBI, who even printed the cover with the wrong planelist. Of course you are free to correct me, if I didn't sum it up right.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:23 PM
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So….! Who is this Oleg dude and what doe’s a newbie with only 35 posts know about SoW?
Get real!

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Old 05-09-2008, 08:00 PM
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I'm at an age of 38 as unpatient as a child on x-mas eve when it comes to SOW:BOB. But it's stupid to accuse Feuerfalke for Santa never showing up with gifts..
38 is a very good age (which I guess that CrazyIvan agrees to as well (1970?)) - and I'm as impatient as my oldest son the day before christmas regarding SoW too

@Feuerfalke - I hope that you don't take my comment as a flame attempt as I seldom have any problems with the actual content of your posts, it's only that you sometimes sounds too much like someone defending your own company

@CrazyIvan - The problem is that we are all so curious about that reason for not showing any images As long as everyone at Maddox Games gets their paychecks and work hard (but not too hard) with SoW, I am content... WHEN it gets released is not my problem - I'm more worried about if it gets rushed out of the door or even dropped completely after too many delays. I'm not really concerned about seeing any graphics galore in screenshots either (as IL2 looks good enough). I would however like to see an ingame image or movie to make sure that they are getting close to beta (summer 2008 has been hinted by Oleg?). If they are not, I would be concerned if I worked at the company paying the bills...

I just hope that the next screens released are not images of splendid 3D models again that could be from some high quality 3D Studio or Maya site on the net. They are for sure extremely beautiful and the detail level is staggering, but we've got the message that the 3D models of the planes are great. Show us something else. Maybe some GUI images if Oleg want's to keep the landscape behind the curtain for a while? The problem with that is maybe that the final touches of the GUI are often the last things done with a game (from my own experience at least)...

And finally @Viking - What does someone that registered here as late as in November know

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Seven pages already. It just goes to show that many people really are excited about BoB, just like me. More folks come to this forum than any other forum on the 1C website. That also speaks volumes.
Every time a hear those rumors of "vaporware" and such, I ALWAYS say that WHEN BoB is released, it will be far more than we had ever expected. I am patiently waiting, and Oleg will release it when it is ready. He has demonstrated this so many times in the past and should have certainly earned our faith and trust by now.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:18 PM
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Pacific Fighters wasnt anything to do with Oleg.

It seems you lack factual substance and most your posts are gossip from other forums by your own admission.

Deal with facts and not opinions.
Wrong....Pacific Fighters had everything to do with Oleg....It was a third party add-on that Olegs crew helped finish, which also delayed BOB SOW close to a year.
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