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Old 08-10-2011, 10:47 PM
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Spit under modeled as far as boost goes.

109 under modeled as far as top speed goes

There...that was easy

Plenty and plenty of posts on this matter and I'm sure the Devs know
Unfortunately nothing is done on this issue. However, a lot of good things (more realistic cut out behaviour of early Merlins removed) are tuned down ...
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:38 AM
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I think the original cut out was a bit drastic
I don't know what the original cut out in your game was....

I do know that if you push the float up in a float carburetor, the flow of fuel stops.

While my airframe is aerobatic, my engine has a float carburetor. The mere suggestion of negative G's will cause the engine to spool down.

There is no way a float carburetor can perform a negative G loop.
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:12 AM
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Hi. Based on a undated (? 1940-1941 who knows) sheet of paper, the Englishs was obtained this development in their all existed airplane? I guess to these modifications there is a more tangible source, when, into which airplane, where and who mounted it in? Could we see them?

Compared with this, as you wrote it in the topic (109s autoprop - did it ever existed?):
IvanK: "By general operational employment I am referring to general Squadron use, i.e. How many aircraft were equipped with it and at what date."

There were not enough to the German auto prop pitch, that were published a manual in 1939 (maybe from a joke it would be printed), and the german aug.-oct. 1940 somehow not part of the BOB era anymore...
I will be curious, there will be an automatics in the E-4, E-7 after these (Will be E-7 at all?). I hope so yes, otherwise this -beside all respect- is double standard.
Err what exactly are you on about Tom? The first paragraph of the document is valid. This refers to the documented value of +0.1G that cut out effects commence. Thats the relevant bit ... the remaining bit of the document refers to a "proposed system" to reduce the effects. No one is suggesting anywhere that this "proposed system" be incorporated in CLOD. The document was provided for the sole purpose of providing a documented value of cut out (in terms of G) in original early Merlins .... i.e. those without any mods at all.

This is a single page of a two page document that is dated in the usual pattern in the signature block on the last page, the document date is 21/12/1940. The remaining documents in the file are dated 20/12/1940 and 21st February 1941.

What is the relevance of the 109 Auto Prop pitch statement ??

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Old 08-11-2011, 09:48 AM
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Err what exactly are you on about Tom? The first paragraph of the document is valid. This refers to the documented value of +0.1G that cut out effects commence.
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No one is suggesting anywhere that this "proposed system" be incorporated in CLOD.
Well, the truth that I have to apologise, you're right, I responded to cheesehawk post, that myself did not check the things.
I was able to make a negative loop with the RAF types in the case that the CEM is turned off only...

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What is the relevance of the 109 Auto Prop pitch statement ??
Nothing.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:30 PM
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The cut out was a 2 stage event. The 1st stage caused a momentary loss of power > a lean cut out. The 2cd stage of the cut out was the more serious cut out as the float floated the wrong way and openedthe inlet fully allowing full fuel pressure to the carb and thus flooding the engine > rich cut out.
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Old 08-11-2011, 02:25 PM
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i usually fly with the E1
Much better for me than the E3 [to much shaking when you fired the cannons
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plus that i have more records with the E1..
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:24 PM
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Really i can´t see any difference (in performance) between the Ia and the IIa, except for the Rotol constant pitch control, except of that, both of them has +6 lb, same speed, same climb rate, same maneuverability, same guns ... why most servers don´t allow to play with them?
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:12 PM
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Look at the gauges then, the speed difference between the two is over 100mph.

Really?!?
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Old 08-11-2011, 07:13 PM
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Really i can´t see any difference (in performance) between the Ia and the IIa, except for the Rotol constant pitch control, except of that, both of them has +6 lb, same speed, same climb rate, same maneuverability, same guns ... why most servers don´t allow to play with them?
you serious?
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:21 AM
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The cut out was a 2 stage event.
The fuel metering system does not change and the air/fuel ratio does not change very much.

That is the whole purpose of leaning the mixture to maintain that ratio as the density altitude gets higher.
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