How much more is realistically fixable

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

...And then blame the 'stupid' game or the 'incompetent' developers...

Installing the patch is easy. You make sure you have the latest release version of the game and extract it to the install directory. It's that simple. How could they have made it easier?

Some people have had issues with extracting the file. As stated in MANY threads the free application 7-zip works.

If you are incapable of doing that then maybe you need to wait for the new release version on steam.

[PVT_Shepperd]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Sorry, but the whole freaking premise of this thread is stupid. Of course the game is fixable, and of course the base code is fine. Throwing away several years of work is idiotic, as is the suggestion of it. The software that CloD is based on is modular and was designed to be modified and rewritten as needed from the beginning. The problem is that for several reasons the modules were thrown together without time for tuning and optimization, so of course there are bugs, and of course the bugs can be fixed, it's a natural part of any kind of multi-part project. We just came in on the project too early.......

Now kwicher snivellin' and make some productive input!

Yes, that is what CloD looks to me. The devs say that they included placeholders. We only see what they included not those stuff which is nearly ready to get in the game but not working properly so they replaced it till it is finished. We dont know. At this point I would like to have more information from the devs.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by col123

I very seriously doubt this game will ever be fixed in any meaningful way to be honest...its just so convoluted and shows a worrying lack of uniform consistency within its various parts...i mean on the one hand we have the wonderful detailed Virtual cockpits which are awesome...DM is also good too...but then we have crap sounds..crap terrain engine, rubbish AI...crap or next to useless campaign elements which seems to basically be just a collection of boring missions strung together without any attempt to connect them or create any sense of immersion or realism..add all that to a host of other broken or non existent features that were promised and most intelligent people are left wondering just what the hell is going or went on!...

Lets face hard facts..the sim has been supposedly in development for over 6 years now..during that time in its early development Oleg said it would be released within a few years...then it gets delayed/shelved/ignored to the point people start wondering what's going on...people are thinking either this sim is going to be super awesome and worth the wait ...OR something seriously has gone wrong at 1c....the latter seems now to be the obvious conclusion..

So I fail to see the devs spending much more time trying to fix this bugged up mess or dare i say are they even capable of doing so....and where is Oleg in thsi important time?......lets face it if he can turn his back on it all and walk away..then why not the rest of 1c?....i find it rather disturbing he has dropped off the planet where CLOD is concerned...after all he was always at the forefront of its development and promotion early on, giving interviews on its status and progress (which we can now all disregard and take with a large pinch of salt!)...shame he doesn't seem so visible now its released, ..i very much doubt this sim will amount to anything other than what you see now in the short term...and i cant see any real long term investment or commitment continuing regards its development.... if the last 6 years is anything to go by...i don't hold much hope for its future!...

Apart from nice water effects, reasonable good DM and good cockpits the rest is rather mediocre at best..and quite rubbish in many/most other areas.

There is just so much that is just plain wrong with this sim that it doesn't make any sense at all... many of its features are far worse than IL-2's...so how are we supposed to trust, believe or have hope or faith in this sim being fixed when after so many years they have already promised so much yet delivered so little!..so am now left wondering how many of them are even bothered with it all now...looks like Oleg isnt..so who else is?..makes me wonder.....

Wow! With so little confidence in the product or the developers you would have to be a mug to hang around a waste even another minute of your time on this sim. With so much more in the world to do why would you waste your time.

Bye and good luck!

I on the other hand am willing to put up with the teething issues and am using this initial period as a training exercise without wining because I've got resonable performance and can see how much potential this sim has got.

Cheers!

[Phazon]

I found they were making some decent progress with the last few patches but they seem to have hit a wall with the current patch in development, especially in regards to the full-screen mode which seems like such a simple thing given that EVERY game I own runs in full-screen mode.

Why are they having such difficulties with it? Is it really that hard to implement late into an engine's development? Have programmers with intimate knowledge of the engine left the company?

These questions are what's causing alot of doubt for me at the moment. It would be really nice if Luthier could give us a small writeup of why they are having these issues and what is being done about it I would be abit more happy but we are left in the dark at the moment.

I have found though that I have less performance issues after I switched to a HD6970 even in the currently buggy full-screen mode. I had stuttering with my old HD4870. I think the biggest improvement has come from the increase in VRAM on the videocard. More memory means less loading, it looks like Cliffs of Dover needs at least 1.5GB+ of video memory to run happily.

[Theshark888]

Originally Posted by col123

I very seriously doubt this game will ever be fixed in any meaningful way to be honest...its just so convoluted and shows a worrying lack of uniform consistency within its various parts...i mean on the one hand we have the wonderful detailed Virtual cockpits which are awesome...DM is also good too...but then we have crap sounds..crap terrain engine, rubbish AI...crap or next to useless campaign elements which seems to basically be just a collection of boring missions strung together without any attempt to connect them or create any sense of immersion or realism..add all that to a host of other broken or non existent features that were promised and most intelligent people are left wondering just what the hell is going or went on!...

Lets face hard facts..the sim has been supposedly in development for over 6 years now..during that time in its early development Oleg said it would be released within a few years...then it gets delayed/shelved/ignored to the point people start wondering what's going on...people are thinking either this sim is going to be super awesome and worth the wait ...OR something seriously has gone wrong at 1c....the latter seems now to be the obvious conclusion..

So I fail to see the devs spending much more time trying to fix this bugged up mess or dare i say are they even capable of doing so....and where is Oleg in thsi important time?......lets face it if he can turn his back on it all and walk away..then why not the rest of 1c?....i find it rather disturbing he has dropped off the planet where CLOD is concerned...after all he was always at the forefront of its development and promotion early on, giving interviews on its status and progress (which we can now all disregard and take with a large pinch of salt!)...shame he doesn't seem so visible now its released, ..i very much doubt this sim will amount to anything other than what you see now in the short term...and i cant see any real long term investment or commitment continuing regards its development.... if the last 6 years is anything to go by...i don't hold much hope for its future!...

Apart from nice water effects, reasonable good DM and good cockpits the rest is rather mediocre at best..and quite rubbish in many/most other areas.

There is just so much that is just plain wrong with this sim that it doesn't make any sense at all... many of its features are far worse than IL-2's...so how are we supposed to trust, believe or have hope or faith in this sim being fixed when after so many years they have already promised so much yet delivered so little!..so am now left wondering how many of them are even bothered with it all now...looks like Oleg isnt..so who else is?..makes me wonder.....

+1
A bit harsh but I feel the same way....and I do not feel good about it

[baronWastelan]

I can garantee that everyting in the sim is fixable.

That was easy.

[ip3]

time will tell, I won't rush to conclusions like some here...

[jf1981]

To be true, they seem to have no interest in campaings. This game is more meant for online.
They have to work it out and I hope they will, there's quite no doubt about it.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Phazon

I found they were making some decent progress with the last few patches but they seem to have hit a wall with the current patch in development, especially in regards to the full-screen mode which seems like such a simple thing given that EVERY game I own runs in full-screen mode.

The last time I ran a computer game in less than full-screen mode was on my Macintosh Performa 475 back in the nineties, it couldn't handle some games in full-screen 640x480 mode.

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr

Thats not true.. Looking through the forums there are plenty of people playing the game at reasonable framerates with a system on par with yours. You will NOT be able to run the game at MAX settings if you have a MINIMUM system. I've seen people complaining that they should be able to run at MAX settings and then see they have a 3 year old system with a 4 year old graphics card.. thats just not realistic. And if you've gamed at all, you know that the "minimum system specs" are always too low and the "recommended" is always more like the minimum..

True yeah i guess, but my mate who has a lower end but still within specs, cant run it at all. Guess i just feel dissapointed for people like him too.