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nothing in life is certain, not even your next breath. what many people her DO know if they have followed the development of il2 since its inception is that oleg is aiming at a "next level" sim that goes beyond aircraft shooting at each other in a stale empty lifeless world, however pretty it might look with new modern gfx, and yes there are lots of clues he has given, and hints, and hopes, and some specific facts. do i know what will be in the final release, nope, but i do like to aim for the positive picture to see many of those elements included (either working from the start, to be expanded by 3e party or later patches, or simply factored into the game and engine design so it can be worked on later on and does not require us to wait 10 years for il2-v3) Quote:
if you'd have been paying attention or a better working memory of what you came accross you would remember this from may 2009 in oleg's own words about the seagulls Quote:
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there is no certainty on ANYTHING either in life or what oleg will or will not include in BoB, you and your jolly herd of doomsayers however on many of those issues are not informed enough. and i'll do an andywest on you now: you go and prove to me by quoting clips from oleg that he is completely uncertain if birds will EVER be in BoB as object, that birdstrike is so technically difficult it would delay the whole BoB project, and that the one picture of the single bird just posted is the ONLY one he ever created while working on this, see how absurd your "andyjwest logic" is ? you have the complete right as an individual to believe in anything or nothing, even that BoB will be a complete sterile world with a few pretty airplanes and little else, none of that bothers me, and it doesnt matter if you have been here one day, one year, or since the forum started. what DOES matter is that on many of the actual details you are either poorly informed, have a short memory, or are actually going around in a depressed state in life where even on a sunny day you only see doom and gloom. just dont post that crap here pretending it is FACT, 'cause it aint. to be fair, at least you seem to be a little better informed then the earlier rude spotty faced teen, or the other dude (neil from "the young ones"), you seem to remember "there was something about birds" previously released by oleg, and it isnt total news to you. that actually is a sign of progress compared to many of the earlier doomsayer comments here recently ![]() ahh the feigned claim of innocence, the lilly white being assaulted by evil doers in the lost corridors of the internet. again your memory fails you, nobody here is being jabbed at for no reason, read the actual thread. people asking for information and PARTICIPATING in a discussion (direction of which given in the OP) is one thing, getting an endless boring repeated interjection of uninformed negative banter trying to derail the ongoing discussion is another, particularly since it is ill informed and from somebody who doesnt actually know the detail of what we already have been told and pretend they are suddenly expert at everything BoB. Last edited by zapatista; 04-28-2010 at 11:36 AM. |
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Zapatista, since it appears that the moderators on this forum have no objections to your pig-ignorant personal abuse of anyone who points out the ludicrous nature of your postings, I assume they will have no objection to me replying in kind. Several points which are blindingly obvious to anyone who has been reading this forum for any length of time:
(1) You aren't connected with 1C:Maddox in any way, so you have no more knowledge on SoW:BoB than any others who have been following its development. (2) When you see the least bit of detail about the project, you then assume that not only will it definitely be included, but that it will do everything you can possibly twist the words around to mean. (3) You know absolutely nothing about computer programming (and s*d all about much else apparently). (4) If anyone posts anything that doesn't fit in with your delusional fantasies, you respond with personal abuse rather than logical argument. Given this, were Oleg Maddox or anyone else ask for your 'advice' on writing games software I'd assume that they were as crazy as you, and that any such project was doomed to failure. From all the evidence, Oleg & co are sane, rational human beings though, so your 'input' is wasted. Why don't you do something more useful instead, like writing graffiti on toilet walls? |
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and for those that actually read threads like this to exchange information about oleg's upcoming masterpiece, just a few more clips of what Oleg actually DID say in the past about some of the new features we were discussing earlier in this same thread
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i'd say info like that is rather encouraging and uplifting, it shows vision and planning, and a lot of scope for further development. Last edited by zapatista; 04-28-2010 at 12:24 PM. |
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another interesting snip from oleg in another interview (russian website), was the fact vehicles/aircraft will leave tracks on the ground (only commented on afaik about grass, but presumably the same is true for dirt strips
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and some more snips from oleg (mid 2009), this one confirming there WILL be other animals (i am still hoping for cows/sheep in fields)
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Hello Zapatista (and all) and good afternoon!
Nothing is certain, no, so I wonder why you (zapatista) just re-wrote everything I said? That was exactly the point of my earlier post; to point out that although these elements may be working in the sim, there is no given that they will appear in the initial release. Yes, flocks of sea-gulls may be working; but so are driveable vehicles with a 1st person perspecitve, and IIRC the pictures of these that Oleg showed were to demonstrate what 3rd parties could do as these elements may not appear in the final release ![]() EDIT-from your evidence though mate, clearly you are right that the seagull will be included. Thanks for proving me wrong; in this instance it was worth it! ![]() ![]() 2nd edit; in hindsight my original posting was maybe too harsh; I am not here to argue, but to enjoy this sim (Il-2) and hopefully SoW in the future. Last edited by philip.ed; 04-28-2010 at 05:02 PM. |
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the seagull announcement was huge news when it came out
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If anyone can be so helpful to tell me which discussion this was from I'll look for it ![]() EDIT_if not, I'll look for it when I have more time ![]() |
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Although I don't have an account at SimHQ, I too can remember reading about the sea-gull in a topic there.
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