Friday 2010-03-19 Screenshots and Discussion Thread

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Cobra8472

Hi Oleg,

Appreciate the development update.
Not many developers who are so in touch with the community since day 1 of development

I'm wondering if you are planning to implement flat bottoms into your cloud rendering system?

Using textures with flat bottoms on the lower sprites of a cloud has a desirable effect.

A simple shader which darkens the sprite based on Y-position within the cloud is also a suggestion from my side. Hence the bottoms of the clouds would become darker than the top. (effect is visible in my old cloud rendering system; http://www.dackard-3d.com/clouds1.jpg)

Obviously I realize all elements of the engine and simulator are still heavy Work in Progress however.The cottonball clouds of IL-2 are a bit of a pet peeve of mine.

Very nice clouds Cobra, I see what you mean about darkening the bases. I'd love to fly past huge towering cumulus clouds one day, the type that make the sky seem vast and your plane tiny.

Perhaps one day....

[Necrobaron]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

What Oleg is talking about:
http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm...il2-update.htm
http://www.combatsim.com/memb123/htm/jan99/IL-2.htm

Ah, the good ol' days. We've come a long ways. Great update, Oleg...
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SILVER SURFER VAPOR

[Skoshi Tiger]

Hi Sutts,

I can only talk from an Australian Point of View, but there were a range of horse drawn mechanical harvester available from the turn of the centrury. As a lad in Western Australia, it seemed like every farm had it's mechanical graveyard with at least one old horse drawn Sunshine harvester.

http://museumvictoria.com.au/sunshin....asp?iid=10479



Now I'm not sure how that translates to 1940's England with the smaller acreages, traditional farming practices and a larger labour force (In Australia at the time (as now), if you were not an efficient farmer your not a farmer!), And I have no idea how common it would be in England at the time.

This style of equipment produces a more regular patterns after the harvesting process.

It's amazing where these discussions will lead.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Sutts

Thanks for the update Oleg. Those shadows really bring that cockpit to life...very impressive stuff. The detail on the bomb sight is amazing. Will be fantastic if it works like the real thing too.

One little observation I think I've mentioned before. The 1940s fields would not have featured modern day tractor "tramlines" - I think I can see some in the background of the Blenheim shot. At that time tractors were still outnumbered by horses and the tractors that were in use were definitely not applying sprays with large booms - this is what those parallel wheel lines in the crop are for.

The fields of the time would have appeared as a uniform crop with no parallel tractor lines. In case you plan to show bales and modern style square hay/straw stacks - these would only appear later. Wheat stooks are an important feature for a country scene around harvest time and traditional hay stacks too (large heaps of hay/straw - not baled). Lines of straw produced by combines would also have been rare or non-existant as the technology was only just becoming available in the states.

I included some pictures in this post:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...tor#post143189

I apologise if I'm stating the obvious here.

Anyhow, thanks again for the update. I'm very encouraged by the way the sim is looking.

[Richie]

There are a couple of things I notice that I really like one is nothing really but on the Ju-88 it's nice to see round cowlings and not the 16 sided ones we have in IL-2. Those look great. The other is the glass I like the look of it very much. Someone mentioned a Seagull before, I have a pic of a SOW Seagull somewhere, I'll try to dig it up.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

I can only talk from an Australian Point of View, but there were a range of horse drawn mechanical harvester available from the turn of the centrury. As a lad in Western Australia, it seemed like every farm had it's mechanical graveyard with at least one old horse drawn Sunshine harvester.

Now I'm not sure how that translates to 1940's England with the smaller acreages, traditional farming practices and a larger labour force (In Australia at the time (as now), if you were not an efficient farmer your not a farmer!), And I have no idea how common it would be in England at the time.

This style of equipment produces a more regular patterns after the harvesting process.

It's amazing where these discussions will lead.

Yeah, it's nice to ramble a bit sometimes.

I don't know about the war, I don't remember it .

I was born in 1954 and lived in the country as a child. By the time I was taking notice (probably 1957 at the earliest) it was all combine harvesters, tractors, and mechanical balers. There was ploughing using horses, as a sport, but the real thing was always done using tractors by that time (a team of horses could pull one plough, a tractor could pull four at once). There is a tractor in the Airfix kit of the Stirling that looks a lot like the farm tractors in my day, as the current tractors do (except front wheels seem bigger now), I presume the engine capacities and power have increased.

Bales in those days were rectangular, now they're round, that's quite a recent change, in the 1980s or 1990s in Britain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baler

Wikipedia says 1937 for small "square" bales, so they may have begun to be used in the war, or maybe they were available in the USA only?

[AndyJWest]

The 'Women's Land Army' at work, presumably in WWII:

Looks like a mechanical baler to me...

[KG66_Phantom]

Very Impressive as always Oleg

[lbuchele]

Il2 is very CPU demanding.When I see graphics like this I wonder if SOW will be more GPU linked ,showing benefits from a SLI system for example?

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by lbuchele

Il2 is very CPU demanding.When I see graphics like this I wonder if SOW will be more GPU linked ,showing benefits from a SLI system for example?

Um, sorry, TLA overload...

[major_setback]

Tractors were around then. You would see tracks in a field, if nothing else then from tractors of lorries carrying off the hay/crop/straw.

Land Girls WWII:





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Bails, 1943:



Mechanical bailer 1943:



Traditional way 1943:



1942 bailer (stationary but mobile):



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Essex 1941:



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http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/340...347052288BB462

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http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/332...3FEF406871B787

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http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/789...4446D9B1386347

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http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/309...7CAAE8C4C94190

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http://www.prints-online.com/image/l...ii_1608243.jpg

Harvesting oats 1941: