BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012

[BlackSix]

Good day everyone!

The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha. DX9 support is specifically removed. If you are running DX9, do not apply the patch!

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.

Download (International Version):
http://www.airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=53&task=view.download&catid=13&cid=334
http://senect.com/hadal/files/il-2_clod/IL2COD_17582.rar
http://oron.com/2nht5gp5h2c8
(211,021,781 bytes)

Download (Russian Version):
http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=53&view=view.download&catid=13&cid=335
http://oron.com/mzi00hqcijj4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t1xf9j
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52278195/IL2COD_17582_ru.rar.torrent
http://marine-air-group.ru/downloads/IL2COD_17582_ru.rar
(211,104,479 bytes)

Please enable logging in your conf.ini (Log=1). If the game crashes, send us your log as well as any crash dump files created in the cppdump folder in the main game installation. Email everything to ishevchenko@1cpublishing.eu

So! Get testing. Get reporting. Make sure your logging is enabled, and send us your crashlogs!

Installation Instructions:
Just extract to your
[Program Files]\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover
And play!
Version number is 1.06.17582

We don’t have a complete readme at this time, but a rough list of changes is below.

Known Issues

• Not fully optimized: grass, clouds, and trees. Clouds cause constant FPS drop; grass and trees cause hick-ups. A few extra days of work for this, a few days for grass, few days for clouds, we felt that we could start open testing the patch without waiting for these changes.
• Texture cache failing to draw higher-res textures on close-up objects with lower settings on below-recommended video cards.
• Weathering textures on aircraft appear shiny in shadows.
• No damage decals on aircraft from small-caliber hits.
• The hit flash effects are temporarily turned off.
• Far and medium distance clouds are temporarily turned off.
• Text in dialogue windows in the mission builder may appear bugged with other dialogue windows underneath.
• The front line in mission builder and minimap is drawn incorrectly.

Changes and Improvements

Performance

We've performed a huge amount of work improving both average and minimum FPS in the game. Most recommended-spec machine will see a roughly double average FPS and a significant reduction in the micro-freezes that had previously plagued the game. Their frequency, duration, and overall FPS impact will be greatly reduced or completely redone.

Some of the changes include:

• Completely rewritten render pipeline, which reduced CPU load;
• Rewritten texture manager, reducing stutter when loading new textures;
• Moved landscape geometry generator to its own CPU core, reducing stutters;
• Optimized tree code, reducing stutters when moving across landscape or rotating camera;
• Moved grass generator to its own CPU core, decreasing stutters during low-level flight;
• Moved all building and vehicle damage models to be pre-loaded, rather than dynamically loaded when they are destroyed. This increased mission loading times and memory usage, and reduced stutters when blowing things up;
• Improved multithreading in many other aspects of the code, improving minimal FPS on most multicore machines.

Flight Model

We've performed a tremendous amount of work testing and improving flight models in the game, as well as improving various aircraft engines. We used actual pilot's notes and flight testing data during the process (thank you Sean!). Unfortunately some deeply-set limitations in the engine code do not allow us to minimize the margin of error at altitudes about 7 km (21,000 ft) where most aircraft begin to perform worse than their real-life counterparts. Fixing this requires more extensive code rework and will therefore only appear with the upcoming sequel. However at lower altitudes most flyables will perform much closer to real life. We also have to note that some aircraft, most notably Spitfire Mk.II, had better performance than the real thing. Others, especially their engines, had reduced performance. We've addressed these serious issues and made our planes fly much closer to the real thing.

Partial List:

G.50
Temperature models of the engine were wrong due to incorrect data. The engine could not get up to required power at all altitudes. We've also added +100 boost for WEP mode.

Spitfire Mk.II
The aircraft's speed performance was too good at all altitudes, sometimes 60 mph better than the real thing.

Spitfire Mk.I
Fixed the top speed dip above 18,000 ft.

Hurricane Mk.I
Speed performance was also too good at all altitudes, similar to the Spit II.

Blenheim Mk.IV
Had many problems with the engine model. The engine overheated at normal RPM, the plane could not get up to stated airspeed at all altitudes. Maximum allowed airspeed was too great, and the plane could get up to 560 mph in a dive. A huge amount of work was performed to improve the plane's FM and bring it up to speed.


Artificial Intelligence

Partial list:

• Fixed some non-working orders, removed others from the list. There are no more orders available to the player that the AI does not follow.
• Added a request for available targets;
• Turned off friendly fire for ground battles (improving FPS);
• Added the ability to query current waypoint for scripts;
• Told AI pilots not to commit ritual suicide when their leader crash-lands;
• Fixed out of turn take offs for AI pilots;

Sound

Partial list:

• Fixed two-engine flanger;
• Added detailed engine malfunction sounds;
• Added MG-34 and Bren Mk.II machine gun sounds;
• Added many other sounds: bomb whistle, bomb hit, atmospheric ambient, cockpit ambient, and many more;
• Improved and added engine sounds. For example, the Merlin family contains MerlinIII-RG-Hurricane, MerlinIII-RG-Spitfire, MerlinXII, and Merlin_III which all sound differently under various RPM conditions

Have a great weekend!

Thanks for All, who made the mirrors for this patch!

[pupo162]

Uraaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Dano]

Paatchh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JG52Uther]

Fantastic!!

[GraveyardJimmy]

Wow, was not expecting the patch! Good job team!

Do we need to delete cache files?

[Basha]

Cheers :)

[Tree_UK]

Are we there yet?? Yay we are!! :grin:

[NSU]

yesssss

[=AN=Apache]

Thanks God



Thank you B6

[Voidhunger]

thanks!

[Das Attorney]

Damn I have to go out to a jam in 20 minutes!

Thanks for the ongoing development, will look forward to test :)

[easyhomewin]

praise be to jesus.......or in this case Black 6:cool:

[Flanker35M]

S!

Thank You and have a nice weekend!

[SirAthlon]

I'm happy :grin:

THX Black6 and MG

[Rumcajs]

I was just about to launch ROF. Thanks i don't need to.

[alado]

my heart, my heart argggggggggggggggggg ............................................

[Bloblast]

Thanks great!

[wolfhound338]

This is truly a great day. Thanks for the hard work. :)

[SlipBall]

Thanks team!..................:grin:

[FG28_Kodiak]

Great!!!

[kevchenco]

fantastic guys thanks alot

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

:)

thanks!!!!

[Aer9o]

Thank you man!

[Insuber]

Yeeeeeehaw!

[albx]

Thankkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu :grin:

[Madfish]

HOLY CRAP! :-P

Downloading now!

Thanks for putting it up - I didn't expect it at all to be honest.

[JG5_emil]

YAY!

Thanks

[ATAG_Septic]

Thank-you Black6 and the team.

Septic.

[louisv]

Thanks a bunch

[Jatta Raso]

great, at last

now going testing...

[ATAG_Keller]

Thank you for your hard work team, now go home and enjoy your weekend!

[Sven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suY06PVK_bI

Alaarm!

Patch dead ahead!

[capt vertigo]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!

Now let the whining begin. LOL

Vertigo

[TR47]

Thanks!

[Majo]

Thank you all!

Movement is life.

Salutes.

[Kodoss]

Download...

[E.F.Hartmann]

A big thank you is great.

[tintifaxl]

Downloading this nice surprise now. :-P Can't wait to see what AI commands are working now.

[jamesdietz]

Sure I won the Lottery & the Mariners will win today,the sun came out in Seattle,I became a grandfather etc et al...but this is the best news of the day!!!

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/tumblr_lfk7buTuT71qzdvhio1_r7_1280.jpg
Wooopey!!!!!!
( sorry about portrait...size not my fault!!)

[Fer912]

gracias thks

[FFCW_Urizen]

THANK YOU http://www.smiliemania.de/php/sg/show.php?smilie=1845068-0.png

[Lurker_71]

This is a most welcome surprise. Thank you devs for your dedication.

[BlackSix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suY06PVK_bI

Alaarm!

Patch dead ahead!

It's the best video for today))

[Manu22]

Merci !

[zoyyo]

Graciasss !!

[Stealth_Eagle]

Thank you BlackSix and the IL-2 team for getting this released. I don't mean to seem negative but are we going to be waiting for 1.7 for ground controlled vehiciles and then work will focus on Battle of Moscow? I am just curious and thanks yet again for all of your hard work.

[susw]

Waiting...complete!

[5./JG27.Farber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suy06pvk_bi

alaarm!

Patch dead ahead!

+1 :-p

[Dano]

Thank you BlackSix and the IL-2 team for getting this released. I don't mean to seem negative but are we going to be waiting for 1.7 for ground controlled vehiciles and then work will focus on Battle of Moscow? I am just curious and thanks yet again for all of your hard work.

They have not yet announced what form or when ground controlled vehicles will be added so I would not expect then anytime soon.

[Vulcanel]

Thanks B6. Testing.

Regards.

[Bokononist]

Cheers team, look forward to testing this....

[jayrc]

Thank you:grin:

[kendo65]

Hallelujah!

You might have waited until after the Cup Final though ;) just joking

Thanks B6, Luthier and everyone.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Awesome :D :D :D

Who's ready for formation flying with the heavies? ;)

[JG52Krupi]

Awesome :D :D :D

Who's ready for formation flying with the heavies? ;)

Oh me me me me!

I haven't crashed into a team mate while attempting a formation flight in so long I am having withdrawal symptoms...

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Thanks kindly, off to test. It lives! :)

[=XIII=Shea]

Would it be possible to have a torrent?
cheers BS and the team

[Stealth_Eagle]

They have not yet announced what form or when ground controlled vehicles will be added so I would not expect then anytime soon.

I know but I'll remain hopeful since I think I'll be able to bring in some new people to join just for the tanks and such. One day, we'll have combined ops on a scale and realism like no other before this.

A musical piece that I am reminded of by all these posts. Try listening to it while you read it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YknqU5jWqI8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[jibo]

it's a good day to fly

[outer beacon]

Would it be possible to have a torrent?
cheers BS and the team

+1

[Mags]

Thanks for your dedication, Team!

Downloading...

[ACE-OF-ACES]

The patch is ready!
Can't be! There are several threads here stating it will be at least 2 to 6 months from now! ;)

[Tree_UK]

First patch report, er, well my FPS as actually got worse :-(, building pop up still there and shimmers. Certainly not double the FPS that was expected unless i have done something drastically wrong. :(

[Force10]

Can't be! There are several threads here stating it will be at least 2 to 6 months from now! ;)


And the winner of the first sarcastic/negative post in the patch release goes to....Ace of Aces! We knew he had it in him!

[Baron]

Just in time to test my new 27" monitor that i got yesterday. :)

[Stealth_Eagle]

First patch report, er, well my FPS as actually got worse :-(, building pop up still there and shimmers. Certainly not double the FPS that was expected unless i have done something drastically wrong. :(

Perhaps video settings are the problem. Try that and see if it works.

[Tree_UK]

Perhaps video settings are the problem. Try that and see if it works.

I have left all the settings as they were before, I will wait to see if others have noticed a difference before messing about with settings etc. :(

[{dz}]

thank you :)
look forward to testing patch

[droz]

FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FALL FROM THE SKY!!!

j/k

w00t!!!!! Excited. Now we need a faster transfer location.

[Stirwenn]

Empty your cache folder can help

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9828/terrythomas.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/terrythomas.jpg/)


''Damned good show old man!''

[vranac]

Thank you :-)

[Stealth_Eagle]

I have left all the settings as they were before, I will wait to see if others have noticed a difference before messing about with settings etc. :(

If I remember correctly, the settings are defaulted with each update since I know that difficulty settings were reset in another patch so just open the video settings just to be sure. Ok?

[flyingblind]

Never thought I would harmonize with Tree but my fps are also unchanged also cloud shadows are missing. No panic yet though. :-) Oh and thanks for the patch, I am sure it will be fine.

[AKA_Scorp]

Great news, thanks.

[addman]

First patch report, er, well my FPS as actually got worse :-(, building pop up still there and shimmers. Certainly not double the FPS that was expected unless i have done something drastically wrong. :(

Read the patch notes again Tree, you have to turn off trees, grass and clouds to enjoy the game in all its glory.:-P

[BlackSix]

First patch report, er, well my FPS as actually got worse :-(, building pop up still there and shimmers. Certainly not double the FPS that was expected unless i have done something drastically wrong. :(

We didn't promise to fix building pop up and shimmers in this patch

[klem]

Mirror Sites anyone please?

Its telling me I have to wait 2 hours for a slow download :(

[nearmiss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lmsMSQDVPM

[stephan87]

holy ****!! i can't believe it!!!!!


SPASIBA!!!

[mazex]

Awsome, and naturally im out on the town having a beer with my pals... Thank you for finally getting it done and I hope you too can enjoy a beer tonight!

/mazex

[41Sqn_Banks]

@B6, Luthier, Devs: Thank you for the beta. Enjoy your holidays!

[Madfish]

Mirror Sites anyone please?

Its telling me I have to wait 2 hours for a slow download :(

I'll upload it to my webspace. I have a slow connection though so it may take 40 mins. I'll post the link when it's up though.

[AKA_Tenn]

so i gave it a quick go..... huge FPS increase... and i was able to put all the settings as high as they go.

dunno if its just me, but the AI runs into each other a lot now... i did a S turn in a 109 and my wingman smashed right into me taking off my engine cowling (without damaging the engine) and the tip of my right wing, and my plane still flew fairly well, considering... so then i told them to spread apart, and the two other AI ran into eachother cause they both broke the same way when i told them to spread... but the AI commands do work

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

My download failed at 87%, now I'm informed that " You have to wait 1 hour, 39 minutes and 29 seconds" for the next download to be available. :eek:

Great. Why can't they get the patches on a decent site? I'm not paying for the quick download. I'll just watch the rest of the footy then lol. :rolleyes:

Really slow, too (156kb/sec).....and I have a 30mb download speed.

Any good mirrors pls?

[=XIII=Shea]

I will upload also:)

[SG1_Gunkan]

Thank you! We love you!

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Thanks very much chaps. :)

[Norseman]

~S~ & THX !
-crossing my fingers..
Have a nice holliday !

[AndyJWest]

(Monty Burns impression on) Excellent. :cool:

[Luftrofl]

Only had a few minutes to run black death but average fps up to the end of the runway bombing went from 26 to 45 on high.

Not bad so far.

[Baron]

Wierd, i extract the rar.file to cliffs of dover folder but when i start the game via steam its still the old version number 1.05......?

[BRIGGBOY]

Bo'Selecta. thx b6.

[chris455]

Can someone remind us of the procedure to empty the cache? Specifically, does the shaders folder need to be emptied or deleted?
Thank you-

[Tree_UK]

Well emptied all my cache, and im sorry to say that I have no performance increase, if anything my FPS as dropped, dust particles on landing bring my GTX680 card to its knees. Still thanks for the effort , but I cannot for the life of me see where the dev's got a 50% performance increase from.

[csThor]

The shaders folder needs to remain, just delete its content and the other files in the cache folder. But don't delete the cache folder.

[Gourmand]

incredible !!!!
thanks !!!

[simast]

Well emptied all my cache, and im sorry to say that I have no performance increase, if anything my FPS as dropped, dust particles on landing bring my GTX680 card to its knees. Still thanks for the effort , but I cannot for the life of me see where the dev's got a 50% performance increase from.

Same results here - no FPS increase at all and I would have to go as far as to say it got worse (I have even disabled trees and grass).

[Flanker35M]

S!

Shaders folder can be removed, game creates a new one.

[LcSummers]

Great patch


thank you

i will have fun!!!:-p

[Flanker35M]

S!

Black Death average went from 47 to 70FPS :) Nice boost. But the minimum in same track dropped from 11 to 3.

[=XIII=Shea]

All the downloadlinks redirect me to oron.com. Is there any alternative download option yet?

Nearly finished uploading

[SIDWULF]

Well emptied all my cache, and im sorry to say that I have no performance increase, if anything my FPS as dropped, dust particles on landing bring my GTX680 card to its knees. Still thanks for the effort , but I cannot for the life of me see where the dev's got a 50% performance increase from.

Ohhh that really is a shame :( That is the only thing i was looking forward to from this patch is smooth FPS on take off roll...really the only thing i was looking forward too. It's not my hardware, I have a 680 GTX also. I am willing to bet this was high on the list for most people too.

Oh well, thanks 1C for releasing the patch, very excited still. :)

[podvoxx]

Patch! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWnm7UpsXk

[enyaw]

Hi All
Thanks to everyone involved in trying to get the patch sorted.

Downloaded and installed patch, ran a single mission, seemed to be an improvement, ran a lot smoother only a slight stutter when hitting aircraft.
I tried airfield attack , flying as LW in single mission, and got a launcher stopped working crash, will keep trying other missions and give feedback.

Intel Q6600@ 2.4
AMD 6870 1gb

4gb Ram

Win7 32 bit

Cheers

Enyaw

[150GCT_Veltro]

Alleluja!

Thank.

[kestrel79]

How are the new sounds? Sounds like they added quite a few of them in the release notes. Is the old good sun rises/lighting back?

I don't download beta patches so happy testing guys! I look forward to your feedback and screens/videos.

[SIDWULF]

So can anyone confirm if there is low fps on take-off roll / landing? I am going to test myself in a few minutes i really hope for the best.

[blackbirdslo]

Thanks!

[Baron]

Im i the only one having the game crash when trying to start it?

[chris455]

Ran black death with everything maxed except Number of Buildings set to "high", not "Unlimited".
Went from 38FPS average to 50. But my minimum FPS dropped by 1 from 4 to 3.
Seems stable. I love the new reflected shockwave effect of the explosions!
Back to do more testing-

[Steuben]

Just installed new ATI 12.4 driver for my AMD 7970! Lets see how than plays out! Patch is still downloading!

[=XIII=Shea]

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21658437/IL2COD_17582.rar

BTW this is the international version not the russian

[flyingblind]

Hm. Interesting. My fps stay at a rock steady 30fps no matter what. Even attacking bombers over London with everything maxed out - even land shading on original. I think the increase is there but something on my system or in the game has put a ceiling on it. It makes the game run very smoothly to be sure and I am not a high fps freak anyway. Definately no cloud shadow though.

[Stirwenn]

Thx for the patch ! some improvement fps even when i reset the mission with the clouds : average 10fps more ingame. Your challenge in 25% improvement is succesful...
May i say you saved your head ? ;)

[Luftwaffepilot]

Thx for the patch ! some improvement fps even when i reset the mission with the clouds : average 10fps more ingame. Your challenge in 25% improvement is succesful...
May i say you saved your head ? ;)

They actually said the fps shot up twice

[Tree_UK]

Easiest prediction in the world Tree wouldn't get the fps increase....should have had a sweepstake on it.

Well i'm not on my own.

[Rince]

Haven`t tried it yet, but downloading!

Thx for the patch! Try it tomorrow just called my wingman!

[mayestdo]

Same results here - no FPS increase at all and I would have to go as far as to say it got worse (I have even disabled trees and grass).

+1

[Stirwenn]

Lol Tree ! you bugger ! :) they promised at minima 25% and maxima 50%... so please consider the glass as half full !

[desastersoft]

Over all the Performance is better. But the FPS thing is such a Fake. They Disabled the Clouds... muhahahahaha... Without Clouds i had same effects. At my Machine no difference to before this Beta Patch in FPS. I think it was better before, because that was WITH CLOUDS!!!

Machine:
i7 980 XTreme, Asus Rampage II, 12 GB DDR3 RAM in Tripple Channel Mode, 2x590 GTX NVIDIA with 3 GB DDR 5 RAM, Win7 HE.

Sorry, how can i put it back to the Version before the Fake?

[Figura]

Oh yeah!!! ;)

[theOden]

So let me get this straight.

You removed a load of fps eaters and then we report an increase in fps and all are happy?

[Norseman]

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21658437/IL2COD_17582.rar

BTW this is the international version not the russian

THX alot Shea !

~S~ :)

[simast]

Sorry, how can i put it back to the Version before the Fake?

You can delete CoD "Local Content" using Steam and then simply re-install. This patch is a fake :) A 6+ month fake. Also, the cockpits look a bit low-res to me than before, but I suppose I need to re-install old version to really confirm this.

[Birdflu]

:) houaaa

[Icebear]

I was just about to download the patch but after reading the changelog and comments I decided to wait another couple of month.

Disabling Clouds? Hardly surprising that some noted FPS increase.....

[ytareh]

Great FPS increases here on my ole Core2Duo E8600 at 4.4GHz,3GB RAM and GTX295 -Win 7 HP 64Bit .Very happy .Thanks.

[Insuber]

Bad. Ran the Black Death track before and after patch. I emptied the cache. The fps is worst, the game has a lot more of stutter, with settings maxed out. Here are the figures:

Before : avg/max/min 28/61/3
After : 24/44/1 (not fluid at all)

Settings maxed out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/SettingsVideoCloD.jpg

But maybe the Death Track isn't good because it has clouds and grass ... ???

[41Sqn_Stormcrow]

I did not download the patch and tried it but they said that they did not turn off clouds in general only far and medium distant clouds. So actually you should still have clouds but only close distance ones. Of course this will explain a good deal of the fps gain.

[Madfish]

Direct download mirror for the International Version:
http://senect.com/hadal/files/il-2_clod/IL2COD_17582.rar

I'll leave it there for the forseeable future ;)

[Steuben]

So everything on max even SSAO turned on i got smooth flying even down low! Only Problem is some stutter over buildings! Average FPS 49!

But AI commands still dont work properly! Ai changes formation when commanded to do so but does not attac when ordered! And no Voice only written response! !

[kendo65]

Big improvement for me with GTX260 - game now much smoother at low levels over land.

[palker4]

Tried the patch to see the fixed G50. Quick mission against hurricanes made me realize how broken the AI is and that Single player is still pretty much unplayable due to AI godly physics and FM defying 1337 flying skillz. Cannot believe that i actually paid for this. See ya at the next patch and do not expect me to buy Battle of Moscow or anything else you may be planing before if this s**t is not fixed.

[JG52Uther]

Super quick test, free flight over London:
Looking down in cockpit at the city
Before Patch= 24 FPS
After Patch = 35 FPS
I fly with clouds off anyway, so it seems an improvement, on my machine at least.

[kendo65]

Hm. Interesting. My fps stay at a rock steady 30fps no matter what. Even attacking bombers over London with everything maxed out - even land shading on original. I think the increase is there but something on my system or in the game has put a ceiling on it. It makes the game run very smoothly to be sure and I am not a high fps freak anyway. Definately no cloud shadow though.

Are you using nVidia Adaptive VSync (half refresh rate) by any chance?

[Stealth_Eagle]

Tried the patch to see the fixed G50. Quick mission against hurricanes made me realize how broken the AI is and that Single player is still pretty much unplayable due to AI godly physics and FM defying 1337 flying skillz. Cannot believe that i actually paid for this. See ya at the next patch and do not expect me to buy Battle of Moscow or anything else you may be planing before if this s**t is not fixed.

Have you tried the modified AI in quick missions yet? It makes the AI a lot more realistic and you won't need to worry about the impossible maneuvering.

[klem]

Guys I haven't been able to try it yet but one thing I notice is that many posters don't give their specs: Hardware including native resolution, OS, DX version, GPU manager settings and game settings. Thats really important if devs are going to assess and understand any problems.

Suggest you go back and edit your posts and add any missing specs.

Just saying its great or its naff doesn't mean anything unless you say what you are trying to run.

[335th_GRAthos]

Thanks 1C for giving us something to spend the time, the discussions on the forum were getting a bit of nonsence... :)

Nice weekend (what is left of it)

~S~

[touchdown42]

HTA,

checked with a track i made before the last patch.
I did first one run with the original game:

Avg./Max./Min. 26/42/9

Then i applied the patch and did several runs (cleared cache before):
1. 36/57/23
2. 32/52/17
3. 31/53/19
4. 31/54/20
5. 31/53/17
6. 31/54/19

So definitely faster and on my system it seemed smoother as well.
Interestingly the first run with a cleared cache folder was the fastest ....


k2600/ stock speed
8GB Ram
ATI 6950/2GB
Win 7/64

[flyingblind]

Are you using nVidia Adaptive VSync (half refresh rate) by any chance?


Doh! Thanks for that.

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Thanks B6 .
I tried the patch at verious settings then went to Max settings with Vsync & ssao off .Frame rates took a big leap up.

[159th_Jester]

The patch is ready! What we have today is a DX10-only alpha. DX9 support is specifically removed. If you are running DX9, do not apply the patch!



Any ETA on when a DX9 friendly version of the patch will be ready?

[Rumcajs]

My FPS is horrible now. I set graphics to medium and turned off grass and set low on buildings and trees, which was not needed before, i used to play with most setting high. It was somewhat ok offline. When i tried online my FPS during take off and fight was simply unplayable. Then when i got hit and tried to bail out i got CTD (after having played for 10 mins maybe). Well back to ROF again. This looks like we are moving nowhere.

[Bullit]

Well emptied all my cache prior to installing the patch, installed patch and kept my settings the same as before the patch my FPS dropped by at least 25FPS, increased my settings and my FPS nearly went into single figures!

Windows 7 64bit
5770 ATI 1 GigRam GDDR5
8mg Free Ram
ASUS Motherboard

[Blackdog_kt]

http://www.gamefront.com/files/21658437/IL2COD_17582.rar

BTW this is the international version not the russian

Awesome, downloaded very fast ;)



Hm. Interesting. My fps stay at a rock steady 30fps no matter what. Even attacking bombers over London with everything maxed out - even land shading on original. I think the increase is there but something on my system or in the game has put a ceiling on it. It makes the game run very smoothly to be sure and I am not a high fps freak anyway. Definately no cloud shadow though.

Maybe you have Vsync enabled and triple buffering turned off? If so, i think that with a 60Hz monitor you are limited to 60FPS or non-decimal increments thereof (60, 30, 15), ie: if you are in a situation where your PC can only push 45 FPS instead of 60, with these settings you will get 30FPS.

If you want to really see what the system can do you can simply disable Vsync for a while. However, the fact that you get solid FPS with Vsync on is also very encouraging, because it's usually the fluctuations in FPS that cause stutters. For me, as long as it stays at 30 or more and it's steady, i'm perfectly happy.

EDIT: I just saw your question was answered and it was Vsync related :-P


Bad. Ran the Black Death track before and after patch. I emptied the cache. The fps is worst, the game has a lot more of stutter, with settings maxed out. Here are the figures:

Before : avg/max/min 28/61/3
After : 24/44/1 (not fluid at all)

Settings maxed out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/SettingsVideoCloD.jpg

But maybe the Death Track isn't good because it has clouds and grass ... ???

I never used this track for testing. Just like in the previous IL2 series, tracks made on older versions of the sim tend to have erratic behaviour when viewed on a newer version.

What i do is fly a couple of quick missions and compare the average FPS between different versions. It's not 100% accurate this way because it depends on how i fly (low, high, near terrain or not, etc), but i still think it's better than using a track made on a previous version.

Plus, if you do the same things each time, it doesn't skew the results much.

What i usually do is select the ground attack quick mission where blue attacks manston. I put myself in a flight of four 110s with bombs, set the enemy flight that starts on the ground to defiants and set every other flight to zero aircraft. Then i go and bomb the trucks/train at the edge of the airfield and strafe the defiants as they are taxing for take-off.

This let me see all that i need to know in terms of FPS in a practical scenario:
- Does it stutter when i get close to ground/zoom into the gunsight?
- Does it stutter when buildings and trees load or explosions happen?
- Is the FPS stable when transitioning between flight over water to flight over land and different altitudes?
etc etc.

It's a low level mission so it has some graphics load, the attack profile i need to fly is very specific (i just pop-up a couple of miles outside manston and then dive bomb at 40 degree angle or so with a delay fuse on the bombs) and the opposition is on the ground, so it's easy to repeat a very similar flight each time and test for FPS differences between patches because i don't have to evade enemy AI. I just fly the same attack each time and note the differences in FPS.

You could even record a track for each of the two sorties if you wanted and then it would be easier to compare, because you would be able to watch each track on the version it was made on and be able to both have reliable track playback and also be free to monitor your FPS instead of also flying at the same time. ;)

My FPS is horrible now. I set graphics to medium and turned off grass and set low on buildings and trees, which was not needed before, i used to play with most setting high. It was somewhat ok offline. When i tried online my FPS during take off and fight was simply unplayable. Then when i got hit and tried to bail out i got CTD (after having played for 10 mins maybe). Well back to ROF again. This looks like we are moving nowhere.

Have you tried to clear you cache folder?
Also, what version was the server running? It never works well for any game when you join a server that runs a different version than your local installation.

[kyletiernan]

Awesome

[senseispcc]

*
I tried the patch. It installed (copy) itself without any trouble and the game started without any problem, no cache cleaning needed.
In my case I did not see a big improvement in fps, especially above London the minimum fps is still very low, seven (7), the max is higher 70 before it was 50 so the medium is a little higher also 30. The clouds have a big impact.
Over London the stutter seems 20% better and there is less stutter near the ground.
Radio communications are simplified and the other pilots do obey to them. But the ground control does not but this I should test again.
:grin:
All in all for the moment I love it, thanks to the team of creators.:-P

[Aty2]

The patch does what it says, does not give more fps, the cabins are more blurred, so you lose quality, and the terrain textures also lose quality, are not at full quality

I have the same fps as before, 25, and I have this computer:

I5 2500K 3400mhz
Asus p8z68 v gen3
8 GB ram ddr3 1600mhz kingston hyperx xmp
antec 1000w
gtx 550 ti 970 mhz


thank goodness I did a backup before installing it, that's not the way, and if you follow so the expansion of Russia will have few buyers.

a game with my team have to give 60fps minimum, below 60 is a very big decision, we are in 2012 and can not be required unless, remind me to pay € 69.90 for a game that does not work as it should

[jibo]

another link
http://dl.free.fr/mdX24c7n5 (international)

[topgum]

Thank you for the hard work & have a nice weekend!

[kakkola]

Thx x the patch but...................is this a joke or something?
No improvment on fps,still stutters with grass even with res 1440x900,still stutters with low trees no grass at 1920x1080,with dust during landing 2-3 fps ahahahah!!!!!!!!Was hoping a boost in graphic.....yeah right same thing noting changed!!!!!!
See ya` x next patch very disappointed!!!!!

[addman]

Download it, installed it, had a look around, FPS samey for me, new sounds nice (especially G.50 engine sounds and breda safat MG sounds). More bugs introduced than fixed though, see ya'll when the "real" patch is out, good luck with the beta testing. :)

[[URU]AkeR]

Haven´t installed yet, but i´m thinking that anybody that touched conf.ini to mannually asign cores should set that to automatic???

[arthursmedley]

Download it, installed it, had a look around, FPS samey for me, new sounds nice (especially G.50 engine sounds and breda safat MG sounds). More bugs introduced than fixed though, see ya'll when the "real" patch is out, good luck with the beta testing. :)

Yep, sums it up nicely. Back to RoF.

[Katana1000S]

Thanks, downloading now.

New build here, I7-E 3960X six core @ 4,6 GHz, 16 GB ram, GTX 680 ETC, re-installed Il2 CoD earlier and am looking fwd to trying this patch.

Yay.

[MadTommy]

Patch notes and user feedback is leaving me feeling rather underwhelmed.

Certainly doesn't sound like the game changer i was hoping for.

[furbs]

Just tried online and had the dreaded CTD after 20 mins on my first sortie.

It used to be about 45mins and now its 20mins so that's improved then....6 months for this?

Stutters worse.
FPS slightly improved but no clouds so im guessing that's the improvement.
Ground textures worse.
Blurry dials.
Sound odd.
Plane textures on 109 all blocky.
Particles cause MAJOR FPS drop STILL.

But by far the most disappointing aspect is the online CTD is NOT FIXED!!!

[fruitbat]

Stutters worse.
FPS slightly improved but no clouds so im guessing that's the improvement.
Ground textures worse.
Blurry dials.
Sound odd.
Plane textures on 109 all blocky.
Particles cause MAJOR FPS drop STILL.



Agreed.

disappointed just doesn't quite express it.

[chris455]

The skins of the aircraft have lost their beautiful faded texture, I cannot seem to recapture it with the weathering slider.......paint still chipped, but paint jobs themselves look like they just left the factory at Castle Bromwich or Fiat.
It is now all I can do to even catch a CR-42 in a Hurricane :(
Nice uptick in FPS but at the expense of clouds. Occasionally it seems I will lose my tracers?
I haven't really noticed the decrease in resolution of the pits, not sure why this is being reported. Driver issue?
Wingmen still recalcitrant when it comes to following orders.
Huge FPS drop when you damage a plane in front of you with your guns. I never noticed that before.
Very difficult much of the time to see through the new prop texture.
All in all, not sure there is alot to cheer about. It seems most of the things they wouldn't release the patch about a week ago are still here.
I think alot of people might find this a little confusing...............
Positive side:
AI very aggressive now in quick missions.
Shadows do not shimmer anymore.
Hurricane & Spit now overheat if you push them.
No crashes (never had them )
Nice bump in FPS (wasn't a problem on my rig before though)
Anyone tried taking off in the Blenheim yet?

[Rumcajs]

Have you tried to clear you cache folder?
Also, what version was the server running? It never works well for any game when you join a server that runs a different version than your local installation.
Thanks for your answer. Yep i tried to clear the cache, not that it was needed, it automatically updated the files inside but anyways ... i did. I ran the ATAG beta server, i hope it was meant for this beta test. I gave it another try and it went much better after i disabled anti-aliasing. I was able to get smooth FPS high in the air but low near urban areas it was not so impressive. So ok i can live without anti-aliasing.

[AMVI_Superblu]

Awesome news !
Thanks for your hard work !
Downloading right now, will report if something goes wrong :grin:

[ATAG_Bliss]

So I just successfully flew my 1st all human Ju88 sortie in formation without a crash. 4 of us flew from Tramcourt to England (1.5 hour sortie) and not a single one of us crashed. Before as we were forming up / taking off we'd crash one by one within 10 minutes flying together. A big improvement there.

Even just with that aspect, that opens up a whole bunch of possibilities for the guys wanting to fly proper bomber sorties. More to test, but I've yet to have a crash.. A good sign and a step in the right direction.

[jibo]

good news from ATAG

btw there is still very random results from a rig to another
maybe 1c should get more video cards to run their tests

[Voidhunger]

thanks, I have big improvement in fps.

[Rumcajs]

CTD again after 3 mins of flying. Good night and happy testing.

[furbs]

So I just successfully flew my 1st all human Ju88 sortie in formation without a crash. 4 of us flew from Tramcourt to England (1.5 hour sortie) and not a single one of us crashed. Before as we were forming up / taking off we'd crash one by one within 10 minutes flying together. A big improvement there.

Even just with that aspect, that opens up a whole bunch of possibilities for the guys wanting to fly proper bomber sorties. More to test, but I've yet to have a crash.. A good sign and a step in the right direction.

Well i dont know whats going on Bliss, ive tried 2 sorties on ATAG and 2 CTD's,
1st 20mins in a 109.
2nd 10mins in a spit1.

[priller26]

Well emptied all my cache, and im sorry to say that I have no performance increase, if anything my FPS as dropped, dust particles on landing bring my GTX680 card to its knees. Still thanks for the effort , but I cannot for the life of me see where the dev's got a 50% performance increase from.


Have not run the patch yet, however, I'll probably wait till its "improved". I've had the same problem with my 3gig 580 before the patch...landing fps at 3/4 and when your guns hit planes in front of you..fps drops 40%. Basically particle effect issues. So the patch doesn't look like its solved those, and alpha testing is just not for me. Thanks for the hard work, hopefully it will bear real fruit one day, I just dont think that day is today.

[gheoss]

Six months for this? the comunity found more bugs now that you developers could find in all this time??

I think they dont know what to do, please hand over the game to another company or release the sdk and everything to the comunity, im sure there are a lot of talented people who can save this sim.

[pupaxx]

haven't installed yet but...finally!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5tfRdkoY0
cheers!

[pencon]

Ok so I extracted the patch into Steam /Common /il2cliffs folder and clicked over write all files . Meanwhile when I start it up in the top right hand screen it stills says 1.05.15950 . What am I doing wrong?:confused:

[Bokononist]

Guys I haven't been able to try it yet but one thing I notice is that many posters don't give their specs: Hardware including native resolution, OS, DX version, GPU manager settings and game settings. Thats really important if devs are going to assess and understand any problems.

Suggest you go back and edit your posts and add any missing specs.

Just saying its great or its naff doesn't mean anything unless you say what you are trying to run.

+1

Plus everyone that still gets CTDs please send your crash dump files to 1C as per Blacksix request.

[Ataros]

Hm. Interesting. My fps stay at a rock steady 30fps no matter what. Even attacking bombers over London with everything maxed out - even land shading on original. I think the increase is there but something on my system or in the game has put a ceiling on it. It makes the game run very smoothly to be sure and I am not a high fps freak anyway. Definately no cloud shadow though.

Turn vsynk off. If you need it make sure to force triple buffering ON with a 3rd party utility (check my sig). Vsynk traps fps to 60, 30 or 15.

[pencon]

Anybody?

[Ataros]

Tried the patch to see the fixed G50. Quick mission against hurricanes made me realize how broken the AI is and that Single player is still pretty much unplayable due to AI godly physics and FM defying 1337 flying skillz. Cannot believe that i actually paid for this. See ya at the next patch and do not expect me to buy Battle of Moscow or anything else you may be planing before if this s**t is not fixed.

Use this tool to fine tune AI http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31573

They just have their "Advanced Flying" skill set too high by default.

[ChocsAway]

Thanks for the patch Devs.

After some poor reports and against my better judgement I risked installing the patch and I'm pleasantly surprised. CloD already ran well on my system (spec below) but stutter is now non-existent and I'd say I'm getting a 10-15fps boost as well. I'm running without clouds and fps are 70-120 with Vsync on (120hz monitor) For me credit where credit is due...well done Devs!

I did have a 'white' Spitfire' on take off on the Airfield Attack QM but other than that no problems as yet. I reckon it's worth a re-boot after patch installation if things don't seem right.

The Hurricane FM now feels a bit like what it must be like to fly a double decker bus IMO :-)

Intel I5 2500k @ 4.6
8GB Ram
Gigabyte HD7950 Windforce
Windows 7 64 bit

[Ataros]

Ok so I extracted the patch into Steam /Common /il2cliffs folder and clicked over write all files . Meanwhile when I start it up in the top right hand screen it stills says 1.05.15950 . What am I doing wrong?:confused:

Check folder paths and copy folder by folder to appropriate locations again.

[pencon]

Ok I extracted Bob and Core seperatley into their folders . hopefully that works. Edit : Nope that didn't work either . DamBit ! Are you telling me that everyone on this sight installing the patch is extracting every folder sereatley into all their respective folders ? Am I doing the right thing by selecting over write files?

[Flanker35M]

S!

Pencon, simpliest way is just to extract the package then COPY the PARTS folder that appears and drop it in the IL-2 Folder under STEAM :) Works.

[Ataros]

Bad. Ran the Black Death track before and after patch. I emptied the cache. The fps is worst, the game has a lot more of stutter, with settings maxed out. Here are the figures:

Before : avg/max/min 28/61/3
After : 24/44/1 (not fluid at all)

Settings maxed out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Insuber/SettingsVideoCloD.jpg

But maybe the Death Track isn't good because it has clouds and grass ... ???

Try to run it 2 times with FPS counter OFF and measure only the 3rd pass. It may take time for windows to cache new files, textures, etc.

Also original texture quality may cause issues.

With SSD file fragmentation should not be a huge issue, but try defragging the game folder after patching anyway.

[Ataros]

How would I know where every folder goes? Not all of us are computer geniuses .I was hoping for a simple answer , but thanks for answering anyway .

You open archive and open game folder. Then you check folder names to see where which folder is located inside game folder. Then merge folders inside game folder with folders from the archive by dropping the latest to the game folder.

[Geronimo989]

Good improvement for me, now FPS drops to about 20 only over London, but it is playable.
The game is finally fixed for me. Now it needs more content...

[Ataros]

It seems that AA started to work at least on some systems. If you have lower FPS after the patch check if you have AA on in game and in drivers. AA puts a lot of load on GPU.

Compare before/after FPS under the same conditions - with AA off both in game and in drivers.

[pencon]

You mean I have to extract every single file and folder from the patch to the game folder files seperately? You'd think they could make it a little more simple for us noobs. I know I'm gonna screw this up . Black 6's instructions on page 1 says "Just install into the mainfolder , he doesn't say extract every folder seperately .. This is pretty confusing .....

[Ataros]

You mean I have to extract every single file and folder from the patch to the game folder files seperatley? You'd think they could make it a little more simple for us noobs. I know I'm gonna screw this up ...

Not every single file but 2 folders that you find in the archive.

[furbs]

Good improvement for me, now FPS drops to about 20 only over London, but it is playable.
The game is finally fixed for me. Now it needs more content...

1st Have you seen the bug thread?

2nd no more content for CLOD.

[MadTommy]

FPS is worse for me it would seem. Cleared cache, removed tress & grass... sigh.

Rubber banding and wild erratic fps in multiplayer. I suppose i give the final patch another go.. but i've lost all faith in this Dev team.

[pencon]

Not every single file but 2 folders that you find in the archive. You mean Bob and Core ? I did that already . Didn't make a difference . I still have version 1.05.1595.0

[pencon]

Do I need to restart the computer? Is that why it ain't showing up?

[PotNoodles]

Ohhh that really is a shame :( That is the only thing i was looking forward to from this patch is smooth FPS on take off roll...really the only thing i was looking forward too. It's not my hardware, I have a 680 GTX also. I am willing to bet this was high on the list for most people too.

Oh well, thanks 1C for releasing the patch, very excited still. :)

If you look at Blacksix post he mentions the grass and clouds need optimizing and should take 3 days each to fix. thats why you may get low frames still on the ground.

[TonyD]

Bad. Ran the Black Death track before and after patch. I emptied the cache. The fps is worst, the game has a lot more of stutter, with settings maxed out. Here are the figures:

Before : avg/max/min 28/61/3
After : 24/44/1 (not fluid at all)

Settings maxed out: ...

Out of interest, I tried these same settings, except my resolution is at 1920 x 1080. I got:
avg/max/min 36/97/3

This also wasn’t fluid, with a lot of ‘delayed rendering’ errors. I then set everything to ‘High’, turned SSAO off, and got:
avg/max/min 42/99/7

With these settings there were none of the previous errors, and it was a lot more fluid. I didn’t test the max settings before the patch, but got similar frame rates to your original ones with much lower graphics settings. I have had a substantial increase in frame rates with the beta patch. My cpu speed is at 4.2GHz with a Corsair H100 cooler, psu is a 600W CoolerMaster.

[pencon]

Tried a restart , no difference, what number is it supposed to show?

[diveplane]

ok tried this patch sadly its terrible for performance still , going to have to say goodbye to this series, move into another series that caters for everybody and there pcs, and has everything u could ask including performance and regular patch updates, farewell all.. may return in a year but for now am done with this.

[Adlerhorst]

How can you tell which you have installed?

[kendo65]

Win XP is DX9.

Vista and Win 7 will be DX10.

[pencon]

Go to your start button and type in the Run slot - dxdiag . It'll be on there . I have DX11 I hope that's not an issue . Not that I can even get the game patched at all .

[Aty2]

Six months for this? the comunity found more bugs now that you developers could find in all this time??

I think they dont know what to do, please hand over the game to another company or release the sdk and everything to the comunity, im sure there are a lot of talented people who can save this sim.


+1

[redpiano]

ok tried this patch sadly its terrible for performance still , going to have to say goodbye to this series, move into another series that caters for everybody and there pcs, and has everything u could ask including performance and regular patch updates, farewell all.. may return in a year but for now am done with this.

I can't stand when people complain that they can't run a game, if your computer is a piece of ****, buy a new one or shut up and play 1946 or WOV2 BOB, you know old games that don't require good PC's instead of bitching and begging the developer to make a game that looks like **** so you and everyone else can run it.

Ridiculous.

[I_want_my_money_back]

I can't stand when people complain that they can't run a game, if your computer is a piece of ****, buy a new one or shut up and play 1946 or WOV2 BOB, you know old games that don't require good PC's instead of bitching and begging the developer to make a game that looks like **** so you and everyone else can run it.

Ridiculous.

Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????

[Kongo-Otto]

Knock it off!

[Skiiwa]

Much better improvements for me! Used to have awful lag when loading into the world from textures. Didnt see any Textures loading after I loaded into the world and no stuttering. Flight was very smooth. The one bad thing I saw was banding on shadows.

*forgot to mention im running the latest release Nvidia drivers and DX.

[roadczar]

Worse performance for me as well.

[pencon]

Well I keep trying to extract the patch folders into the game folders and Nada , same every time .

[JG52Uther]

pencon, open the patch file, right click and copy the file within, then just paste it into CoD, over writing the ones already there.

[fifi]

All in all, to me this beta patch is a NULL step forward

Ok sounds are slightly better, radio orders seems working now, some FM seems improved and very few AI improvments.

BUT:
- antialiasing is still crapy aweful (without SMAA inject mod - a chance it's there!)
- No FPS improvment close to ground (still micro stutters)
- cockpit gauges highly lost in sharpness :!: (cockpit rendering WAS the COD N°1 awesome feature)
- no more far clouds
- Ground shadows are still flickering (whatever settings)
- Big FPS hit when looking ground smoke on landings (was fine before)

...and i'm NOT running COD full max settings!
SAO is disabled, ground texture aren't "original", shadows on medium, number of buildings on medium, buildings rendering on medium, AA disabled (on or off same poor rendering)

I7 875K - Zotac 580 - 6 Go RAM

[Sven]

Thanks for rolling out the patch!

In our flying group we have not encountered any CTD's online, which is what we all hoped for. Furthermore, my FPS have been increased a bit, some guys didn't have an increase. My crossfire setup no longer causes the game to run bad, so now it doesn't matter if I run 1 or 2 cards.

I like the new sound of the Stuka, but I do not like the enhanced sound of BF109/110 , it doesn't sound more real and makes it sound like a lower rev engine, like a bomber ( especially the BF110 ).

The dials on the stuka have turned greenish, like the BF110 dials ( but they are yellow ).

And lastly, I really like the haze on the edge of the map, looks real, some people in our flying group are real pilots and agree with me there!

[pencon]

pencon, open the patch file, right click and copy the file within, then just paste it into CoD, over writing the ones already there.

ALRIGHT ! IT worked ! thanks a lot JG52Uther , the thing I was doing wrong was trying to EXTRACT the files straight to the cliffs folder . When you said copy and paste , I realised I should first make a folder on the desktop and extract into that . THEN copy , and PASTE it into the cliffs folder . Worked like a hot damn! .Mine works smooth and fluid over water sofar . Haven't tested it with fraps yet but my main concern is addressed. The AI is finally aggresive and comes after you so there can be a fight at last instead of flying right in front of you for target practice .To the guy who earlier said he's done with this sim. I noticed your machine specs and they were really way too low .

[[URU]AkeR]

Tried it very fast. GREAT improvement in my lower end machine!!!! THanks!!!!
I have everithing on medium except forest and buildings in low, 1440*900, no ssao, no aa, no vsync, no shadows.
Quik mission free flight over Dover, steady 48fps, no stutters. Used to be 20 - 25 fps with stutters.
Quik mission free flight over london, average 29 fps, freezes in the first seconds (loading textures?) then some micro stutters. London was forbidden for me, 14 fps and freezes.
Then i put shadows on and did the qui mission intercept bombers over hawkinge, 30 fps, and few micro stutters, i could not use shadows before.

Two bugs i will post later in bug thread, had to run it in pseudo full screen, didnt see anithing in full screeen. When i put forest to medium i see no trees but some forest like textures on the ground.

EDIT: my RIG E8200, 2 gig ram, gtx260.

[smink1701]

Thanks for the patch and all the hard work. Sincerely, went for a quick ride over London and didn't see or hear much of a difference. Oh, well, it's the thought that counts. Hoping it will get better and better.:grin:

[pencon]

I love the way the Ai immediatley gets right into the formation you ordered , awesome , that's what I've been waiting for and the enemy is so much more aggresive .I'm finally likin this Sim .It's easily awesome enough to keep playing till the next great patch day . Thumbs way up Black 6 !

[ATAG_Bliss]

Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)

[macro]

Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)

tried this no change. works great for5-20 mins then all of a sudden, stutter then launcher crash.

[Bonkin]

Finally - the Blenheim is a breeze to fly now! Just been out for about an hour in it and it was a joy. Before it was a real handful - always looking over your right shoulder at the temp gauges - but now... very stable.

I wanted to fly online but no servers were being listed. Had that problem before.

Like a lot of others I've noticed that the cockpits have lost a lot of resolution but I'm surprised by the number of reported CTD's. I've been lucky I guess... has very rarely ever happened to me - and certainly none so far with the patch. Perhaps this is an install issue? I unpacked everything to a temp folder first and then copied the contents over - ensuring that all original files were overwritten. Before this I made sure that automatic updates were disabled in steam.

A reminder to those complaining - you are ALPHA testers. Your help is needed to make this a better product for all:

Good day everyone!

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.


So! Get testing. Get reporting. Make sure your logging is enabled, and send us your crashlogs!

[Blackdog_kt]

What Bliss said.

I just finished a 5 hour session on ATAG and out of all the people that installed using this procedure, i think only one or two had problems. I call this a pretty good result for a patch that is not even beta. Yes, they told us this patch is an alpha version.

When i joined ATAG the other guys were already in the middle of their sortie, 4 88s in formation and none of them crashed. I couldn't catch up but i joined them in the next sortie. We took up a few 110s for a bomb run, saw some AI blenheims and decided to go after them so we jettisoned bombs. We hit the AI, then two Spits came for us.

Next mission, again 3 human controlled Ju88s. We took off, formed up and got an escort by 2 109s and a 110, all human controlled. Again, not a single CTD.

Plus 2-3 more sorties with us in 110s that also went without a hitch.
The best thing of it all? I couldn't even fly the 88 before this patch because my CPU would overheat and cause the PC to restart. So i know that when they say the new patch is easier on the CPU, it's actually true.

I was flying for 5 hours with a small 5-10 minute break between sorties and the sim was rock solid stable throughout it all.

Were there any bugs? Sure there were. But they were exactly the kind of bugs mentioned in the patch notes, the bugs they already know about and are fixing for the next version.

All in all, on my PC (which is far from high end) the patch does exactly what it says so far.

Oh, i tried the Blenheim too. Remember the impossible, stock cross country mission? It is now a piece of cake and the Blen flies beautifully. I even forgot to adjust my rudder trim (it still spawns with right rudder trim dialed in) and despite that, i could easily keep it tracking straight down the center line and take off with 100% fuel and a full bomb load.

CEM is now much more consistent to the Blenheim pilot manual: it achieves higher RPM values than the previous version, the engines don't take forever to warm up, they can be throttled up without sputtering before reaching 200 degrees, you can set partial flaps, mixture is corrected and is now either auto-rich or auto lean, prop pitch is also fixed and correctly models a two-stage prop (only fine and coarse positions), etc. Did i mention you can take off with a full fuel and bomb load from a relatively short runway? I think i did, but since trying to fly the Blen was one of my pet projects early on in previous versions, i'll just say it again...i can't wait to form up with a few more people and start going on daring low-level raids :-P

I'm not saying we suddenly ran out of things that need fixing. I'm just saying this was a big step in the right direction and it's obvious the dev team seems to be on top of things: the majority of bugs reported by people are bugs that B6 already told us exist in the patch notes, ie they are known and we also got a timeframe in which they will get fixed, plus the improvements it was supposed to bring are being verified by numerous players.

As long as the sim is stable enough for the majority of people to fly, there will be enough interest and activity for everything else to come into place. And then, it will also become playable for the people who are still facing problems.

There were close to 100 people on ATAG today. If we can fly in formation and bomb targets, the remaining bugs in the bombers will start getting attention. If these get fixed the bombers will win maps easily, so the fighters will need to organize better. If all this happens, the mission designers will need to come up with something more challenging. And so on, etc etc.

I'm neither disappointed nor ecstatic. I just see the patch doing what it says on the label so far, which is a welcome reverse of the trend we had so far.

If the patch works for you enjoy it.
If it doesn't, report your bugs and post your crash logs.
If it doesn't work for you and you don't want to test, just take it easy and wait for the final patch. This is just an alpha version after all ;)

[ATAG_Dutch]

the majority of bugs reported by people are bugs that B6 already told us exist in the patch notes,

Nope. The RAF fighters have uncontrollable throttles.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????



A troll post.

And he has only one post :rolleyes:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Bonkin]

Re The Blenheim


i'll just say it again...i can't wait to form up with a few more people and start going on daring low-level raids :-P


+1

I think more people might start trying it now too.

[Bounder!]

Everyone,

If you are having CTD's / launcher errors, I highly suggest downloading from the link in the 1st post from B6.

Another guy on coms, just chose a mirror site and found that his download version was a different size (in megabytes) compared to the link in B6's post. I highly suggest if you are having problems to use B6's link.

I've been online playing for almost 6 hours straight without a single launcher crash. This includes several sorties of all human heavy bomber sorties etc., yet no crash. There is tons of netlag and many other problems, but I think many of the ctd issues may be caused by a corrupt install.

Verify integrity in steam, make sure to install the patch in the steam/common/Il2 folder (not the documents). Make sure it overrites files for both Bob and Parts folders. Delete the entire content of the cache folder or just delete the folder itself. Start the game and repost back.. I just can't believe that everyone is having the CTD issues here. Everyone we've told this to on TS has yet to get one (when installing right).

It's worth a shot. It's nice not crashing anymore :)


Cheers Bliss, I was having CTDs every 5-10 minutes and a whole multitude of weird graphics bugs but I had got the install from a mirror so just reinstalled patch from blacksix's link and I haven't had any issues yet.

[jibo]

they should release a torrent next time to preserve file integrity

[I_want_my_money_back]

A troll post.

And he has only one post :rolleyes:

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.


What's your problem?

Am I not allowed to have an opinion? I bought this game just like you... but I am NOT happy with it.... in your world does that make me a troll?

Get off your self appointed high horse and get out more

[FS~Phat]

Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????

Please let us know what your machine spec is. Im interested to know, we might be able to give you some advice.

[Robert]

Very small minded opinion, unfortunately I can't post exactly how I feel about your comment or the thought process involved in making it because my post would be deleted...

Suffice it to say... I think 'your' view is small minded.

My system is top spec AND I have tested the game on a Alienware machine also... This game is just riddled with bugs and performance issues!

This patch goes some way to fixing the problems but from what I've read so far there is still a long...... long way to go!

As my name suggests I am far from happy at spending my well earned money on this game, how on earth something that performs this badly could ever be released to the public FOR SALE is beyond me!

At the very least they should have the decency to give the client some information about these performance issues BEFORE they pay for it!

My comp specs more than match the 'recommended' specs posted... it was not until I actually played the game online and then searched on the internet that I found out how many people are in the same boat!

Crazy world!

Refunds department????

I understand the frustration, but I do feel I need to add this. Today we live in a computer/internet society where information is freely available. I NEVER buy anything unless I research potential issues. This game has a ton of them, but they've been well documented and fussed over for quite some time.

While many of us kvetch and discuss our displeasure, there still is a fantastic community here that may be able to help you with specific issues you may have. For example - since you've only posted twice I don't know your experience with CoD - have you turned off the epilepsy filter?

Any way. Good luck. Take a look around. You may find the answers you need to at least make the purchase worth while to you.

[king1hw]

This is highly hurting because I wanted this game so bad. I have loaded up B6 and in 20 minutes I launcher and I am truly upset. I have waited a long time and followed every post on the planes being built and was so excited about the DM and FM possibilities when it came out. This was the era that I wanted to fly and the theater of war that I have studied and luv. I did not have a machine to run this game, but saved my pennies to get a high end machine and then this is what we get in a year:

1. Put back the Hires cockpits and remove the blurring
2. Put back the Head shake or at least give it to server side if they want it.
3. Please get the spits to correct speeds at sea level this is not even funny 250 IAS full fuel when it should be at or near 280 at 2650 4.5 boost.
4. Please give me my clouds back. I would like to see them as I take off not watch them pop in and out.

It seems like we are going backwards in development.

Really tempted to go back to 4.11 if the completed patch does not fix the above issues(Even if the allied planes are a joke to you that fine JUST FIX THE LAUNCHER)

I am sorry that everything is in a rough state at Cliffs but guys gotta do better and I know your trying but to not solve the launcher is a major issue I will try to re-download again but I don't think I will have any luck.

[FS~Phat]

In blackdeath I get a 12% increase in AVG FPS and small drop in Max FPS but the game is definitely much much smoother. I have a high end machine though so I wouldn't expect to get the increase that this patch is aimed at for the midrange market. (this is with default max veryhigh settings - everything turned on 0xAA and SLI not functioning)

The last Official 15950 patch I get AVG 54 Max 146 Min 4
This Beta 17582 patch I get AVG 60 Max 134 Min 6

Official 15950
http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pshldCKafHSqvF-9c97B7mXvaPjvRrG-RfKpzHOW2n6TIJt5o1R6aiq3EF7hROyJym8CDmc4JtZh7VNKF7 vfKAw/CLOD-Release-1-05-15950.jpg

Beta 17582
http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1phJOM6iPYt7FGZpTarfgeaZ7rxoqXuR6RZXd5Wv95oyLXyGt 3I0dXmTMgRjsLMdn542aDBJApJeOtVuJ9Vq4tvQ/CLOD-Beta-1-06-17582.jpg

[StiC]

Pretty happy so far. I can now turn on a couple of features and gain approx 10fps. Also everything just seems smoother and freetrack is much more responsive.

[joker68]

Does anyone knows if I can put the International patch over the russian version to obtain the english language or this will mess the game?
If this isn't possible, does someone have the maddox.dll from the english version so I can update my game language? (bought it from Russia when it wasn't available at western - loooong ago).

[camber]

Rather frustrating, I get CTD after 5-10 mins flying in ATAG multiplayer as others have observed (although I can start engine and sit on ground for >1hour)

I have the B6 linked patch files with exactly the right file size.


Please enable logging in your conf.ini (Log=1). If the game crashes, send us your log as well as any crash dump files created in the cppdump folder in the main game installation. Email everything to ishevchenko@1cpublishing.eu

So! Get testing. Get reporting. Make sure your logging is enabled, and send us your crashlogs!


Which conf.ini, the My Documents/1c Softclub one (etc) or the Programfiles/Steam (etc) one? Where does the crash log appear? What is it called? Does LOGKEEP=0 need to be changed also? This information is necessary.

I can launcher crash easily but cannot find a crash log. Has 1C considered the possibility that it cannot fix the MP Launcher crash because (a) the crash occurs in such a way that a log is NOT generated and hence b) they have never seen a crash log that explains what is happening. MP Launcher crash keeps occuring but 1C is perpetually puzzled and skeptical because they have never seen a log documenting such an event.

camber

[salmo]

<snip> .. Which conf.ini, the My Documents/1c Softclub one (etc) or the Programfiles/Steam (etc) one? Where does the crash log appear? What is it called? Does LOGKEEP=0 need to be changed also? This information is necessary. ... <snip>

1. conf.ini is in your Documents/1C SoftClub folder
2. Crash file is in your Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\cppcrash folder. I suggest you delete all previous crash files from this folder, then play the game & see if you get a crash.
3. LOGKEEP=0 is OK. The old log files will be deleted every time you start the game, so the log file will be for the current battle.

[Nephris]

After a lot of negative touched posts, I have to say i am quiet satisfied to be honest. I mean noone expected a new game ,isnt it. Means I expected more "tidy" graphics and all those landscape issues were soloved for me, no serious issues atm i wouldnt have expected by the changelog that got posted.
Noone should have awaited wonders.

Slightyl incresing the max fps much better the minimum FPS which is the important one! If you measure your FPS tick off vsync for testing sake of course.SSAO still does a deep hit in FPS, which is not a problem for me!

So far good work, keep it up, satified!
Also satisfied with the allied planes, I like my hurricane , I like my Spit, feels good in combat, not tested the 109.

I7 920 @3.99ghz;8gig RAM;Win7 64bit;HD6970 (second card deactivated),SSD.
All settings maxed out.

:)

[FS~Phat]

Well here's my verdict...

It still needs quite a lot of work.
After playing online in ATAG for a while today..... No CTDs for me!

The Spit IIa and 1a feel like they are barely flying even at 250Mph, they feel very lofty and wooly like the planes overloaded with weight and not generating enough power or lift and theres no real definition and none of the crisp response to control movements that we have come to expect from this plane. Not very much fun to fly. A 109 with its gear down was able to fly faster, outclimb and out turn my undamaged Spit IIa. hmmmmm....

The cockpit textures all look blurry and low res and external visibility is pretty poor.

The game certainly runs smoother but after flying 1946 4.10.1 the last few weeks I just cant bring myself to keep at CLOD for the moment.

Certainly some great progress on game smoothness but the FM's need some serious work and the lighting and textures need some work so you can actually see properly. Its like there's oil smeared on the windscreen and a light fog outside.

Keep up the work guys you made some great progress in performance but I think the graphics engine and FMs still need a lot more work to make it enjoyable to fly.

edit: Just gave it another shot in ATAG and it seemed better than maybe I had first thought. I still think the lighting needs some work and I was able to shoot down a couple 109s in turn fights which I had not been able to do before the patch because the spits just lacked the performance. It might be me just getting used to the different flight models between 46 and CLOD but the planes still feel like they float rather than fly and the visibility was better this time, might have just been the time of day before but I really found it hard to ID planes and keep track of them against the sky or the landscape. Still no CTDs for me. Ill give it some more time behind the stick. ;)

[drewpee]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

PS. Thank you.

[tintifaxl]

Another CTD 10 minutes into an offline mission. ATAG online 40 minutes without a CTD, but eight 0.5 - 1 second freezes. Could be lag or custom skins.

Left wing of the Bf-109 is with 'original' high qualitiy textures, right wing gets lower res textures.

[=FI=Scott]

I am going to stick to my guns on this patch. It is the first outing of the new grahics engine and it has obviously been released before they really wanted too. Visually I am better off going back to the older version and clocking back the GPU a bit but I am going to stick it out, fly it some more and post logs in the hopes it will end up helping get this game on its feet.

it is not looking pretty at the moment but if ever this game needed the help and support of the community it is right now. If it doesn't work out at least I can say I tried, as opposed to joining the chorus of the 'I told you so' brigade.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Another CTD 10 minutes into an offline mission. ATAG online 40 minutes without a CTD, but eight 0.5 - 1 second freezes. Could be lag or custom skins.


That's why they were initially disabled in the 1st place. (1/2 to 1 second pauses) But you have the ability to disable them or not.

Read here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=420056&postcount=1619

[41Sqn_Stormcrow]

BTW did re-starting the game help with stuttering? For some it seems to help.

[damar]

the update is very good in my PC.
less stutter.Now, I can fly on London.
The FPS is more stable than former.
Default video setting.
AA is effect.

Thanks CLoD team!

CPU:i5 2500K
GPU:GTX260+
Memory:DDR3 1600MHZ ,8G

[lensman1945]

I am going to stick to my guns on this patch. It is the first outing of the new grahics engine and it has obviously been released before they really wanted too. Visually I am better off going back to the older version and clocking back the GPU a bit but I am going to stick it out, fly it some more and post logs in the hopes it will end up helping get this game on its feet.

it is not looking pretty at the moment but if ever this game needed the help and support of the community it is right now. If it doesn't work out at least I can say I tried, as opposed to joining the chorus of the 'I told you so' brigade.

+1
constructive input:)
I think a lot of people are missing the point of this patch..it is an Alpha after all.

[pencon]

I was wrong about the AI , I originally thought they have gotten more aggressive but that's pretty sporadic . I was following and shooting a bunch of G50's in my hurricane and the whole lot of them just kept flying straight ahead. At other times a few planes agressively came after me so it's kind of hit and miss there . Over all still a much improved Sim. Is there some way to improve AI ? Did I see some sort of program earlier that could adjust them ? EDIT : Actually yeah someone posted an AItweak program but it looks Dos complicated .

[DroopSnoot]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

PS. Thank you.

Great bug report Drew lol

[Buchon]

BTW did re-starting the game help with stuttering? For some it seems to help.

Yep, is this strange bug reported ?

a second load helps with performance, I guess is a problem bound with resources not being loaded correctly the first time, is a easy track bug.

Overall the patch helps a lot, at mid/high altitude you can fly over cities without problems and engage combats, however at low altitude there still shuttering but I guess is because the grass a trees are not optimized yet, as is reported in the know issues.

I have the issue of the texture cache failing to draw higher-res textures on close-up objects, I have no high resolution textures in planes and on the ground at low altitude.

I guess the texture manager don't likes my 1GB card or maybe is just that it needs be tuned because, for example, when you are in cockpit view at 90 degree FOV you have low resolution instruments but if you do a zoom the high resolution textures shows.

I have no crashes to report so I think that for an Alpha stage there progress, smooth game play (mid/high altitude) and an increase in FPS.

I think that if the texture manager is tuned a bit and the mentioned optimization of the grass and trees is done then we´ll have a nice Beta stage patch to test, smooth game play at all levels and nice FPS.

Keep the good work team :P

[Gourmand]

it will be great to have a beta patch note to now what's is the new work we should test... and precise it's a troncate patch to test the performance


( i hope it's a troncate patch for testing performance ;) )

[camber]

1. conf.ini is in your Documents/1C SoftClub folder
2. Crash file is in your Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\cppcrash folder. I suggest you delete all previous crash files from this folder, then play the game & see if you get a crash.
3. LOGKEEP=0 is OK. The old log files will be deleted every time you start the game, so the log file will be for the current battle.

Thank you Salmo.

I got my 5 mins in MP CTD, I don't think the crash log file is very illuminating though:

------------ BEGIN log session -------------
Load landscape...
Load bridges
LongBridge: wrong width. (3)
Load static objects...
Battle starting...

There is 3 new corresponding 683kB files in CPPCrash dir though, perhaps they hold "the secret"

From ATAG chat some people have cured MP CTDs, for some it is far worse. I am in the far worse category....

Cheers, camber

[David198502]

BTW did re-starting the game help with stuttering? For some it seems to help.

i found that helped with all former official and beta patches....i think it has to do with filling the cache folder with new files???


every time i installed a patch(beta or not) my first impression was more stutters and freezes, but then after a couple of restarts it seemed to get better...could be possible that one gets used to the stutters though as well:)

[69iAF~Mike]

Installed patch, did not remove cache folder, Very High settings. 20 to 30 FPS, 50 meters AGL outside London. INSANE AMOUNT OF STUTTERING.

Remembered to delete old cache folder, same settings. Pretty steady 20FPS 50m above London. Less stuttering.

I love this patch. Previously I had to use lower setting for similar performance.

[jinzo]

okay here is my opinion for what its worth
just over a hour of game time in ATAGS no CTD no ghost dots i felt as though there was a visual range increase FMs feel good
slight fps hit but i think its due to game running in dx10 which in my opinion is exceptable.

all in all a step in the right direction yes it still needs work but a thumbs up from me

my rig
i7 2600k at 4.80 ghz
gtx 570
8 gb 1600mhx ram

[Blackdog_kt]

A 109 with its gear down was able to fly faster, outclimb and out turn my undamaged Spit IIa. hmmmmm....



That might be an leftover visual bug: when you set your gear lever to neutral in some aircraft, other players might see you as having your gear extended.

[Volksieg]

Although I haven't experienced the great FPS increase that the dev team spoke so much of, my performance is a lot more stable.... still getting the odd stutter once in awhile but i have yet to find any game that doesn't do that on occasion. The lack of such a massive FPS increase may have something to do with the fact......

.... I can now use shadows!!! :) :) :) :) :)

Thank you dev team! Keep up the good work!

Now the bugbear..... is it my imagination or has the crosshair in the 109 become fainter?

Otherwise... I am VERY happy.

[jibo]

there is way too much happy campers in here, furbs must be boiling, be kind tone it down a lil bit ;)

[Hooves]

Well I am completely disgusted at this point. I have never had so many micro freezes, launcher crashes and just over all terrible performance.

This patch did ZERO of what it said it was accomplishing, in fact it feels more like the game on release than anything.

In fact Ill say the only thing that works properly is the new nerfed red planes lol, WAY TO GO 1C!!!!

I cant understand how a team has had this long to FIX a game and has only taken it 5 steps backwards. I cant wait to see how many steps backwards 2 years of wait time will provide.

Im hoping that the sequel is running a fresh and clean engine, and not some kind of franken engine that CloD, seems to suffer from.

But my honest consesus is that the current Dev team was handed this game, that they don't understand, and they just throw code at it until something different happens, not better, just different.

If this was an FPS title it would have been abandoned as fast as HOMEFRONT. An equally horrible release, and poorishly supported game.

[Ataros]

Repka 3 server is patched. Everyone is welcome for a quick dogfight on a small map.