Luftwaffe bombers

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

Still, I think it would be quite easy to add the A-14 version at least. For external model, only the MG-FF should be added to the nose of the A-4. For cockpit, the A-4 torpedo bomber version would be a good starting point, the torp equipment should be deleted, and the gunsight replaced by the Stuvi.

In terms of bang for our buck, what does the A-14 give us? Having a forward firing MG-FF is interesting (we have it in the torp version after all) but not immensely so. All I can see is that it has cable cutters and a MG-FF.

While I fully advocate for having a variety of sub models (i.e. a Ki-61-I Tei with the lengthened nose, revised armament configuration, etc.), sometimes it can be a lot of extra work for little gain. On the other hand... with things like Spitfire versions its relatively little work for lots of gain. Especially when the changes are engine related and entirely internal for example.

[gaunt1]

A-14 was primarily an anti shipping bomber, but was also frequently used on the eastern front. The MG-FF was especially useful for strafing trains and soft targets like trucks.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

A-14 was primarily an anti shipping bomber, but was also frequently used on the eastern front. The MG-FF was especially useful for strafing trains and soft targets like trucks.

I think I'd go for the C-6a before the A-14... more bang for the buck in terms of giving us something we don't already have. The Ju88A-4/Torp and A-17 both give us essentially the same things. Unless the A-14, for example, has improved performance or defensive firepower.

[Baddington_VA]

Ideally the easiest option might be to work from existing models to add a JU88 S-3 in the future. The nose was streamlined and the gondola gun position removed. Loadout was lightened and only one defending gun was used.
The A17 is half way there already.

Building a late war mission in FMB, the A4 just seems out of it's place.

The above is a suggestion not a demand.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Baddington_VA

Ideally the easiest option might be to work from existing models to add a JU88 S-3 in the future. The nose was streamlined and the gondola gun position removed. Loadout was lightened and only one defending gun was used.
The A17 is half way there already.

Building a late war mission in FMB, the A4 just seems out of it's place.

The above is a suggestion not a demand.

True! From what I've read, many of the KG squadrons were picking up a variety of aircraft in it's place... the Me410 and Ju188 in small numbers. I think many units were simply disbanded as the emphasis switched to fighters and fighter-bombers.

EDIT: And having looked at the Ju88S... that might be interesting. Has the kind of difference and performance boost that could be useful.

[gaunt1]

Yes, a Ju-88S would be really nice, especially because its incredibly fast compared to other variants including night fighters (610 km/h+ at altitude)
Problem is lack of cockpit pictures. A Me-410 would be far better in the schnellbomber role, because its multifunctional.

In terms of bang for our buck, what does the A-14 give us? Having a forward firing MG-FF is interesting (we have it in the torp version after all) but not immensely so. All I can see is that it has cable cutters and a MG-FF.

Yes, I agree with you. Of course the C-6 would be much better, but if its cockpit is lost, A-14 is the only variant that could be added to the game without much work. Other benefit would be that this variant had slightly more armor than the A-4.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

Yes, a Ju-88S would be really nice, especially because its incredibly fast compared to other variants including night fighters (610 km/h+ at altitude)
Problem is lack of cockpit pictures. A Me-410 would be far better in the schnellbomber role, because its multifunctional.


Yes, I agree with you. Of course the C-6 would be much better, but if its cockpit is lost, A-14 is the only variant that could be added to the game without much work. Other benefit would be that this variant had slightly more armor than the A-4.

Ahh, well more armor can be useful certainly

Although the C-6 cockpit apparently was lost, if there was time to work on something then I'm sure it could be recreated. But yes... the Me410 is probably one of the best projects that could be worked on because you can get quite a few versions and variants including the bomber version without much modification between them.