My take on CoD...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by He111

As a offline player i'm really P1ssed @ the AI, fed up with AI planes barrel rolling into the deck when pursued. I cannot play COD anymore until that is fixed.

He111,

as one of the other posters stated, most of the bad AI aircraft behavior can be fixed by adjusting their skill levels in the mission file itself. most vanilla CoD missions have it set to low, and hence the problems

at release time in 2011 there was a major issue with AI behavior with them needlessly flying into the ground (eg when you landed as flight leader), or the silly barrel rolls etc. the biggest coding problems with AI aircraft behavior were fixed in subsequent patches, and the residual issues you now still notice are mostly due to bad AI skill level settings. this setting can be edited for each mission if you want/need to do this yourself, but most more recent missions and campaigns by other players (like heinkill) already corrected those settings.

[Royraiden]

Great to read you are enjoying the sim Bearcat.As the others suggested, multiplayer is where the fun is for most of us, so do check that out when you can and dont forget to get on Team Speak.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by zapatista

He111,

as one of the other posters stated, most of the bad AI aircraft behavior can be fixed by adjusting their skill levels in the mission file itself. most vanilla CoD missions have it set to low, and hence the problems

at release time in 2011 there was a major issue with AI behavior with them needlessly flying into the ground (eg when you landed as flight leader), or the silly barrel rolls etc. the biggest coding problems with AI aircraft behavior were fixed in subsequent patches, and the residual issues you now still notice are mostly due to bad AI skill level settings. this setting can be edited for each mission if you want/need to do this yourself, but most more recent missions and campaigns by other players (like heinkill) already corrected those settings.

Simply not true, the issue was mission design error. AI waypoints need some thought when being placed by the designer.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Simply not true, the issue was mission design error. AI waypoints need some thought when being placed by the designer.

unless somebody recently found a solution to the original problem in CoD's first release, i think you are describing a different issue

at initial release with cod when you were flying a mission (or simply a free flight) with friendly ai aircraft in your same group (with you as leader) and you then proceeded to land at a friendly airbase, your AI squad mates would usually one by one fly into the ground and crash in some vague attempt at landing in the same area. none of this uses or requires waypoints.

this rarely happens since last years patches (august 2012 patches onwards), and iirc luthier made statements some of the AI incorrect behavior was reduced, but they couldnt fix many other problems still being reported with AI (like not following correct commands on bombing missions etc) unless they did a full rewrite of the AI routines (which was never done before the CoD project was abandoned)

at least that's how i remember events

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by zapatista

unless somebody recently found a solution to the original problem in CoD's first release, i think you are describing a different issue

at initial release with cod when you were flying a mission (or simply a free flight) with friendly ai aircraft in your same group (with you as leader) and you then proceeded to land at a friendly airbase, your AI squad mates would usually one by one fly into the ground and crash in some vague attempt at landing in the same area. none of this uses or requires waypoints.

this rarely happens since last years patches (august 2012 patches onwards), and iirc luthier made statements some of the AI incorrect behavior was reduced, but they couldnt fix many other problems still being reported with AI (like not following correct commands on bombing missions etc) unless they did a full rewrite of the AI routines (which was never done before the CoD project was abandoned)

at least that's how i remember events

That seems odd Zapatista, AI will never land unless told to do so via a waypoint. I have many hours with the early game and not one AI landing accident.

[Bearcat]

Thanks for all the positive responses to my post......

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Thanks for all the positive responses to my post......

Hmmmmm, is that a glass half full, or a glass half empty? Can't quite make out.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by redxfred

That's what makes this interesting... different things are important to each of us. I went to CLoD because it used the entire 16x10 screen instead of letterboxing the picture. Have the modders found a way around that? I might go back and strap on the Mustang for a trip around the pattern.
I thought the lighting in CLoD was better to my eyes... can you explain how you think 1946 is better? I'd like to compare them again.

I meant to say that the lighting in 46 is a far cry from CoD even the general overall lighting of the sim if there are no moving shadows etc involved.. . The lighting in CoD is very close.. about as close to realistic as I have seen in a sim. 46 still looks good but in that area among others it cannot touch CoD.

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Hmmmmm, is that a glass half full, or a glass half empty? Can't quite make out.

No.... more than half full definitely .. I really do appreciate the positive responses to my posts..

(I'm really shooting myself in the foot here lately had to edit that last sentence so it would read like I meant it.. sheesh..)

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

That seems odd Zapatista, AI will never land unless told to do so via a waypoint. I have many hours with the early game and not one AI landing accident.

in the original release I had it happen frequently in original allied missions. at the end of achieving the mission objectives you return to your home base to land, and once you landed whatever number of AI wingmen were still escorting you would then crash into the surrounding hills/fields one by one. they would crash into nearby hills either immediately after your landing, or after they circled your landing location they would crash into nearby fields or hills. none of them ever succeeded in landing correctly on the runway i used.
note: this is without given them any commands when to land

i dont think there are waypoints involved with that, but i have no idea how those work

with the latest patches this doesnt seem to be a problem anymore

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by zapatista

in the original release I had it happen frequently in original allied missions. at the end of achieving the mission objectives you return to your home base to land, and once you landed whatever number of AI wingmen were still escorting you would then crash into the surrounding hills/fields one by one. they would crash into nearby hills either immediately after your landing, or after they circled your landing location they would crash into nearby fields or hills. none of them ever succeeded in landing correctly on the runway i used.
note: this is without given them any commands when to land

i dont think there are waypoints involved with that, but i have no idea how those work

with the latest patches this doesnt seem to be a problem anymore

In the first RAF single mission, if I spend time watching the enemy bombers waiting for them to crash, my autopilot lands, at least some of the friendly AIs die (maybe all if I wait long enough). I think some of them land successfully before dying, but I'm not really sure about that. This is using the current Steam patched version.