Bugs Thread

[Thorbalden]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

Interesting. If I recall correctly griffons have a special trait that makes them hate dragons, so I think what is happening is that persuasion impacts first (basically no change, since both units are neutral and have no inherent penalty to each other) and then the specific trait layers on. So I think it's WAI.

What happens if you have max points in the one below it (forget the name) to give most unit types +1 morale (including neutral)? Does it net out to -1?

I've done it. Royal grifins have -2 presen dragon and +1 skill oratory, but still persuasion have no effect with both maxed

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Thorbalden

I've done it. Royal grifins have -2 presen dragon and +1 skill oratory, but still persuasion have no effect with both maxed

I have a feeling this is NOT a bug, but another case of "misleading" wording.

Persuasion is only supposed to reduce natural inter-racial hatred. Not explicit hatred for each other.

So, elves don't like demons as a racial morale modifier, so persuasion works there.

However, royal griffins dislike dragons as a attribute/skill/talent which is NOT related to persuasion. It also wouldn't help Emerald Dragons and Giants either.

Also, the persuasion will not work at all until higher levels if the racial hate is that large (as somewhat indicated in the text description).

[ckdamascus]

Another bug
Dragon-informant quest from Professor Drotor

If you talk to him about the Dragons, and immediately say "Hey I got a talking dragon", you will lose a dragon, but the quest will not complete.

If you talk to him again, he will offer to take another dragon, which he does take and it DOES complete the quest, but it will cost you 2 dragons instead of 1.

Workaround, don't immediately say you have a dragon. Just say "I'll look for one". Go back, then offer the dragon. Only one dragon for the reward (as it should be!).

Valkyrie Set Bug
I dont' have any level 1-3 units, but suddenly I got slingers added to my reserve. It says it will only add a level 1-3 viking unit if I have some. I dont' have any.

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Skald/Caution bug?
That guy was dodging everything... heck, he even had a 0 stack with tons of negative health. You can tell I really didn't like him making his allies "invulnerable" to my spells.

Raven Bug?
After a battle, apparently I can keep feeding him things. I tried feeding him an ent sprout, instant crash to desktop. I tried with -dev, no difference or any logs. Just instant crash. Thorn spouts are OK though. Also a counter on when he is done would be nice.

bug -- this shows up when I first enter a battle.
lua_isnumber( m_pLuaVM, iIndex)
File: spells_common.lua line: 30

bug demon -- this occurs when the demon kills something. I'm not sure where the "class2power_mod" function is declared though.
addon_arena.lua:1907: attempt to call global class2power_mod (a nil value)

[Nirual]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Best of all dispelling it won't even change the damage taken by that unit, at least not right away.

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

@Rork interesting, I thought only ghost blade was supposed to ignore magic resistance. Has anyone else confirmed magic axe working on magic immune enemies in build 6249? Maybe some of their tweaks introduced it.
If anyone else has seen any of these bugs persisting across builds let me know.

All spells that deal physical damage can affect magic immune enemies from what I've seen. Dance of Winter, Frost Snake area damage, Geyser (only the physical portion, as far as I can tell). this makes me think magic immunity has been changed slightly and the description is somewhat misleading.

[camelotcrusade]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Another bug
Dragon-informant quest from Professor Drotor

If you talk to him about the Dragons, and immediately say "Hey I got a talking dragon", you will lose a dragon, but the quest will not complete.

If you talk to him again, he will offer to take another dragon, which he does take and it DOES complete the quest, but it will cost you 2 dragons instead of 1.

Workaround, don't immediately say you have a dragon. Just say "I'll look for one". Go back, then offer the dragon. Only one dragon for the reward (as it should be!).

Valkyrie Set Bug
I dont' have any level 1-3 units, but suddenly I got slingers added to my reserve. It says it will only add a level 1-3 viking unit if I have some. I dont' have any.

Avenging Angel bug
Quite severe because even if I cast a spell on the enemy, they will take 1 dmg (if they are under the effect of Avenging Angel ala enemy skald), but it will NOT count against their avenging angel count.

I think that makes sense to not count against the avenging angel count, but it is insane that now half of their army is literally invincible unless I wait it out, dispel it, or sacrifice a unit to burn an avenging angel counter.

Skald/Caution bug?
That guy was dodging everything... heck, he even had a 0 stack with tons of negative health. You can tell I really didn't like him making his allies "invulnerable" to my spells.

Raven Bug?
After a battle, apparently I can keep feeding him things. I tried feeding him an ent sprout, instant crash to desktop. I tried with -dev, no difference or any logs. Just instant crash. Thorn spouts are OK though. Also a counter on when he is done would be nice.

bug -- this shows up when I first enter a battle.
lua_isnumber( m_pLuaVM, iIndex)
File: spells_common.lua line: 30

bug demon -- this occurs when the demon kills something. I'm not sure where the "class2power_mod" function is declared though.
addon_arena.lua:1907: attempt to call global class2power_mod (a nil value)

I've added or updated all of these through the skald's caution, which was already listed. I'm not sure about the last three. When does the raven start item items in the inventory? Can you only use that option when you have sprouts or eggs in your inventory (never tried talking to him with those). For the other two, I have not seen those popups so I'd like to confirm with others before posting.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

I've added or updated all of these through the skald's caution, which was already listed. I'm not sure about the last three. When does the raven start item items in the inventory? Can you only use that option when you have sprouts or eggs in your inventory (never tried talking to him with those). For the other two, I have not seen those popups so I'd like to confirm with others before posting.

Regarding raven, tell him to write a scroll.
- Fight one battle.
- Talk to him again, offer food.
- You can only offer him sprouts/saplings in your inventory. I have a saved game with it if you want... but you'd figure the devs can figure this out pretty fast? <shrugs>

The popups only occur with -dev mode on. Again, I have a saved game with it (or at least I hope I still do), but it should be pretty easy to repeat. It is the reason WHY demons are not popping rage balls out.

You can see the animation attempt for it (so the logic for the rage creation is correct), but no rage ball actually pops out because that global method returns 'nil' or null or zero etc.

Not sure why I saw the other error regarding the rounding or isindex error, but it occured on the start of battle. Who knows? Might even be related to the Avenging Angel bug.

@Nirual. Seems like you are correct. They nerfed magic immune units big time. That's sort of... silly. Now I have little to zero reason to use black dragons or frost dragons anymore. High vulnerability to Axe of Magic and Geyser (which is a total bullcrap spell). The only way I beat the last hero (black dragons, red dragons, and green dragons) was using a solo stack of one of these level 5 units. Guess which one?

a) arch demon
b) red dragon
c) ancient ent

[Thorbalden]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

I have a feeling this is NOT a bug, but another case of "misleading" wording.

Persuasion is only supposed to reduce natural inter-racial hatred. Not explicit hatred for each other.

So, elves don't like demons as a racial morale modifier, so persuasion works there.

However, royal griffins dislike dragons as a attribute/skill/talent which is NOT related to persuasion. It also wouldn't help Emerald Dragons and Giants either.

Also, the persuasion will not work at all until higher levels if the racial hate is that large (as somewhat indicated in the text description).

True, and what about regal abilitie from royal griffin, is supposte to increase moral for humans, i've paladin and rune mage still no bonus

[Fatt_Shade]

@Thorbalden

True, and what about regal abilitie from royal griffin, is supposte to increase moral for humans, i've paladin and rune mage still no bonus

Same thing for knight/horseman. Regal works for 1-3 lvl human units.
In Ap/Cw Cheer works for humans, elves here it`s same. What about vikings ??? Are viking not human sub race, or are they alien or . . . ?
Regal should work for 1-3 lvl vikings also.

[Thorbalden]

Someone know if there is a secret about the item "Game of Bones" is a pair of dices, that give %5 gold after battle and have one special that give attack, defence or intel, sacrificing one crystal. but when i use it nothing happend, no crystal consume no roll no bonus.

[ckdamascus]

I've seen a few times where an enemy ice dragon hits me, freezes me, and I can't retaliate. Is this new in Patch 6429?

Also, -5 Rest? What does that even mean? I didn't want to redo the battle and wanted a stronger lava golem, but I have a save game to find out...

Ok, I got the -5 Rest ... looks like it just says Rest 1 now.

SUPER BUG, exploit
RESUMMON VALKYRIE ALL THE TIME and MAX RAGE during battle!

UGH, I hate this. I use the keyboard hotkeys and I kept thinking ugh, stupid game lag when I pressed "r" for rage when it wasn't lit up, but the it would light up.

Well, turns out if you keep pressing 'r' for rage you get to summon the Valkyries even if you didn't get the re-rage action; no matter what! Plus, it maxes your rage for that round. ARGH! Repeatable!

There are some preconditions. I'm running in -dev mode since it seems to crash far less while I'm flying around. You need to have runic rage (chance to re-cast a rage skill). Once you trigger it ONCE, then you can repeat it non-stop.

Between this, pygmy 1 HP, avenging angel being overpowered (you take only 1 dmg) and consequently screwing up favorite of the gods passive (which is derived from avenging angel)... I don't know anymore. Why isn't there a hotfix for this?

I almost want to cry.

edit:
Also, when an ancient phoenix dies and an enemy is over his body, even if you "wait" that turn, a graphic glitch will show the phoenix revived.

In fact, if the boss uses a cheap spell like Geyser (yeah it's bullcrap), it will "kill" the not-revived phoenix. You can still revive the phoenix, just thought it was sort of strange.