Please start VAC online.

[Catseye]

Originally Posted by vranac

Please give us some proof or stop accusing people.

Read my post again. I indicated that the numbers on kills by certain pilots are raising yellow flags.

That is not an accusation but a referral to some that there is something happening and it is not just due to the skill of the pilot itself.

Don't be so naive to believe that modifications do not take place. Regarding Russian pilots - there are many Western pilots just as good. Hmmmmm, I wonder why it seems that there is quite often a referral to Russian pilots being good and little referrals to Western pilots being good? The laws of averages do not apply like this so just possibly, just possibly, something is amiss?

[ATAG_Colander]

I for one, do not understand the purpose of this thread.
We all know that there are, and always will be, cheaters on ANY game. Having No-VAC, VAC, or even a server admin sitting next to each pilot will not stop it, only slow it.

Personally, I have not seen any indication of cheating but if there is 1 or 2 cheaters on prime time where there are 90 players, I will have a 2% chance of interacting with one and a 4% if counting only the opposite army.

This 4% does not keep me awake at night and I'm pretty sure they will eventually get tired of the game and move on. The ones that stay, will do because of the challenge and passion for the game, not because they need to increase a virtual counter of some kind.

The above does not mean that, if proof is submitted, the cheaters should not get a permanent ban from all servers.

My 2 cents.

Over and out.
Colander.

[AbortedMan]

Originally Posted by Catseye

Read my post again. I indicated that the numbers on kills by certain pilots are raising yellow flags.

That is not an accusation but a referral to some that there is something happening and it is not just due to the skill of the pilot itself.

Don't be so naive to believe that modifications do not take place. Regarding Russian pilots - there are many Western pilots just as good. Hmmmmm, I wonder why it seems that there is quite often a referral to Russian pilots being good and little referrals to Western pilots being good? The laws of averages do not apply like this so just possibly, just possibly, something is amiss?

Easy Cat, in my experience on these forums speaking in even the slightest blanket terms and broad generalities towards groups tends to get you in trouble.

[Ze-Jamz]

Ive said it over at Warclouds a long long time ago and il say it here....Take away the stats and your solve a lot of issues and not just issues with Cheating...

[ElAurens]

Agree.

Also having some sort of script that would dink the points of someone who regularly bails out rather then fly all the way back to France would go a long way towards making things more realistic, and fair for those of us who don't think of virtual flying as a football match.

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Ive said it over at Warclouds a long long time ago and il say it here....Take away the stats and your solve a lot of issues and not just issues with Cheating...

Couldn't agree more.

[CaptainDoggles]

lol.... there are a LOT of folks in this thread who don't know how steam works.

Ask yourselves this:

Why do games like TF2 and Counterstrike update themselves so frequently?

[IvanK]

And what exactly is Mr X convergence setup ?

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Catseye

Hmmmmm, I wonder why it seems that there is quite often a referral to Russian pilots being good and little referrals to Western pilots being good? The laws of averages do not apply like this so just possibly, just possibly, something is amiss?

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

You will be interested to learn a story of the greatest IL-2 cheater of all times =FB=vik-s and his friend =FB=Storm They were the worst cheaters known by community for 3 years after Il-2 launched. No one of the western community doubted that they cheat. Then they came to the Lowland TigerMeet 2003 LAN European Championship in the Netherlands and won it becoming official European champions. (VikS then became a part of RoF team

and still "cheats".

)

If you have as long winters as we do here in Russia and nothing to do outside for most part of the year and no money to go to a pub or cinema you would spend as much time flying as many Russian guys do (all their off-work time basically).

If you loved WWII aviation as much as Russians do some of you would have created IL-2 series, not Oleg Maddox (most successful game studios are located in the west, but not avia-sim ones, aren't they?) For many this is not a game but life.

Use your brain to think why no one but Russian community organized this championship (2nd time already) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33946 (won by none-russian btw) When you win the next one, you are allowed to call them cheaters. They will take it as a compliment btw.

Show a video proof from ATAG (just fly behind and film the guys you mean) or fhut up and stop being a nazi. This stinks. If you can not shoot down 5 noobs in 5 minutes it does not mean no one can ...Here is a proof that cheaters exist for you.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Ataros

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

You will be interested to learn a story of the greatest IL-2 cheater of all times =FB=vik-s and his friend =FB=Storm They were the worst cheaters known by community for 3 years after Il-2 launched. No one of the western community doubted that they cheat. Then they came to the Lowland TigerMeet 2003 LAN European Championship in the Netherlands and won it becoming official European champions.

If you have as long winters as we do here in Russia and nothing to do outside for most part of the year and no money to go to a pub or cinema you would spend as much time flying as many Russian guys do (all their off-work time basically).

If you loved WWII aviation as much as Russians do some of you would have created IL-2 series, not Oleg Maddox (most successful game studios are located in the west, but not avia-sim ones, aren't they?)

Use your brain to think why no one but Russian community organized this championship (2nd time already) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33946 (won by none-russian btw) When you win the next one, you are allowed to call them cheaters. They will take it as a compliment btw.

Show a video proof from ATAG (just fly behind and film the guys you mean) or fhut up and stop being a nazi. This stinks. If you can not shoot down 5 noobs in 5 minutes it does not mean no one can ...Here is a proof that cheaters exist for you.

Today for the first time I was told about MR X convergence setup and as a result got quite a few kills

Kudos to Mr X, great pilot unfortunately for blue he is now found frequenting a spit