Please start VAC online.

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by notafinger!

Actually the two kinds of people are those who know they are crap pilots, like myself, and try to learn from every encounter and improve their flying. The other are those who think they are Manfred von Richthofen reincarnate and if they lose it's because the other guy was cheating.

I do agree to a point , ,I normally don't get involved with this bs , BUT m8 there are cheats on , just to show that i pay attention , your map, to begin with was a very close in plane sets, performance, speed etc , with really good dog fights etc.
Now after the patch an people know vac is not on or even working, we are right back to the same crap, Point , spit 1a was a very good match with e3, an could even catch the e3 ,(if you took your time ) e1 was easier ! At co alt an speed , we could catch you in the apex of your climb everytime an i mean every time !! Sure you could climb a tad higher ( this is not directed at you , but the blue players i see using this hack) .. NOW what we have is e3 that flys 30 to 50 mph faster then it did 2 weeks ago, THAT can climb at co alt an energy that extra 2 to 3000 feet or more than 2 weeks ago ! an can climb as high as it wants , only to roll over when they want , NOT to lack of speed, as does the fair player!!! The hacks that have been brought up in other threads do work !!! To say they don't is a bold faced lie !!
Your map was really great , as this map really shows the hack is back !!
I do understand the differance between a good pilot an 1 that is pulling B.S., tHEY STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB DOING THE SURERMAN CLIMB, ,What we need is some of these script writers that know these hacks are being used , explain to steam how it is done, then maybe they will do something about it, till then it's a cheaters game !!!! The last patch brought many planes being closer to even speeds etc. now once again we are seeing the uber 109s back in town , not worried abit about a ban or loss of game, If there are 90 planes in game depending on time of day etc. will even split sides to 45 each side , now out of the 45 blue , I would bet a pay check 4 to 8 blue players are using this hack, SO 10 to 15% are using on a daily basis ,
So let's quit dening every body is clean a fair , they are not. To the smart guys that are fair an understand how they do it , help put a end to this very noticiable hack !!!!

[notafinger!]

Originally Posted by JTDawg

So let's quit dening every body is clean a fair , they are not. To the smart guys that are fair an understand how they do it , help put a end to this very noticiable hack !!!!

If you believe that strongly then record tracks and submit to the server admins and have these people banned. Any action against will have to be from the community because I can assure you that nothing is going to happen with VAC.

[recoilfx]

I won't speak for others, but personally when the Spits got their performance back, i had a horrible time out climbing the Spit Ias

- HOWEVER - Recently i have figured out that climbing at 300kms is a lot better than my old 250kms. At this rate, Spits can not keep up AND i still have energy to do a vertical loop to turn this into a vertical fight.

Diving at sustained high speed (equalize boogie's max speed), then gentle climb at 300kms will usually leave the Spits behind.

It may be that other blue riders are figuring out the same thing...

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by recoilfx

I won't speak for others, but personally when the Spits got their performance back, i had a horrible time out climbing the Spit Ias

- HOWEVER - Recently i have figured out that climbing at 300kms is a lot better than my old 250kms. At this rate, Spits can not keep up AND i still have energy to do a vertical loop to turn this into a vertical fight.

Diving at sustained high speed (equalize boogie's max speed), then gentle climb at 300kms will usually leave the Spits behind.

It may be that other blue riders are figuring out the same thing...

got there performance back eh? really? where?
we know its out there.

http://www.kegetys.fi/
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3265101
http://www.kegetys.fi/misc/


and I'm not seeing a gentle climb from those e3 and e1, your one of those magic climbers I have seen a lot of...
and know for a fact those e3, e1, do not climb like the E4...6,000 foot climb from a 0 stall in seconds..mmm wow!

All I see is the back of 109 e1, e3, and of course e4...

there is no biased in this game....

[recoilfx]

Do you really need me to split hair on the definition of getting performance back? The reds DID get their performance back in the last few patches, just not as much as some people may like...

Look... ATAG will ban anyone who is caught cheating. Get MSI Afterburner and RECORD anyone who is doing so. If it's 10-15% rate that JTDawg claims, it shouldn't take along for you guys to assemble the footage.

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

got there performance back eh? really? where?
we know its out there.

http://www.kegetys.fi/
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3265101

and I'm not seeing a gentle climb from those e3 and e1, your one of those magic climbers I have seen a lot of...
and know for a fact those e3, e1, do not climb like the E4...6,000 foot climb from a 0 stall in seconds..mmm wow!

All I see is the back of 109 e1, e3, and of course e4...

there is no biased in this game....

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

got there performance back eh? really? where?
we know its out there.

http://www.kegetys.fi/
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3265101
http://www.kegetys.fi/misc/


and I'm not seeing a gentle climb from those e3 and e1, your one of those magic climbers I have seen a lot of...
and know for a fact those e3, e1, do not climb like the E4...6,000 foot climb from a 0 stall in seconds..mmm wow!

All I see is the back of 109 e1, e3, and of course e4...

there is no biased in this game....

I can do that in a 109, Am I a cheater, too?

[David198502]

Originally Posted by JTDawg

I do agree to a point , ,I normally don't get involved with this bs , BUT m8 there are cheats on , just to show that i pay attention , your map, to begin with was a very close in plane sets, performance, speed etc , with really good dog fights etc.
Now after the patch an people know vac is not on or even working, we are right back to the same crap, Point , spit 1a was a very good match with e3, an could even catch the e3 ,(if you took your time ) e1 was easier ! At co alt an speed , we could catch you in the apex of your climb everytime an i mean every time !! Sure you could climb a tad higher ( this is not directed at you , but the blue players i see using this hack) .. NOW what we have is e3 that flys 30 to 50 mph faster then it did 2 weeks ago, THAT can climb at co alt an energy that extra 2 to 3000 feet or more than 2 weeks ago ! an can climb as high as it wants , only to roll over when they want , NOT to lack of speed, as does the fair player!!! The hacks that have been brought up in other threads do work !!! To say they don't is a bold faced lie !!
Your map was really great , as this map really shows the hack is back !!
I do understand the differance between a good pilot an 1 that is pulling B.S., tHEY STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB DOING THE SURERMAN CLIMB, ,What we need is some of these script writers that know these hacks are being used , explain to steam how it is done, then maybe they will do something about it, till then it's a cheaters game !!!! The last patch brought many planes being closer to even speeds etc. now once again we are seeing the uber 109s back in town , not worried abit about a ban or loss of game, If there are 90 planes in game depending on time of day etc. will even split sides to 45 each side , now out of the 45 blue , I would bet a pay check 4 to 8 blue players are using this hack, SO 10 to 15% are using on a daily basis ,
So let's quit dening every body is clean a fair , they are not. To the smart guys that are fair an understand how they do it , help put a end to this very noticiable hack !!!!

what exactly do you mean with this hack???

i can for example confidently say, that im no cheater, but at ~ equal energy i outclimb spits as well vertical....one just have to fly clean...
and as a pure 109 pilot, i do not notice a difference between the different 109models in climb performance...at least im able to outclimb RAF in all versions.

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by David198502

what exactly do you mean with this hack???

i can for example confidently say, that im no cheater, but at ~ equal energy i outclimb spits as well vertical....one just have to fly clean...
and as a pure 109 pilot, i do not notice a difference between the different 109models in climb performance...at least im able to outclimb RAF in all versions.

Hey m8 you are not even close to what i'm talking about, an i know you are not cheating! what i'm saying is in my post , so at co alt an speed, give or take a few miles an hour. say flying side by side at 260 270 mph, then we go vertical at say 4 tfpm an say i can climb 2500 or so before stall your trying to tell me a 109 can go up anouther 3000 4000 feet ? not possible , correct . this is what is being seen time an time again, these certain 109s defy all gravity. = they are using the speed hack, they are not stalling instead after climbing the extra 3or 4000 feet after they continue there climb in a lazy left or right turn to even get even higher , with no signs of stalling , drop a wing to tighter turn (more speed loss should happen) correct me if i'm wrong in what i'm seeing , is this is really possible ? good pilots can always figure out , how to get a little more speed =agree to get 30 to 50 mph no way no how.
to get a few hundred extra feet even 1000 agree not 3 to 4000 , this has nothing to do with zoom an boom tactics

[David198502]

Originally Posted by JTDawg

Hey m8 you are not even close to what i'm talking about, an i know you are not cheating! what i'm saying is in my post , so at co alt an speed, give or take a few miles an hour. say flying side by side at 260 270 mph, then we go vertical at say 4 tfpm an say i can climb 2500 or so before stall your trying to tell me a 109 can go up anouther 3000 4000 feet ? not possible , correct . this is what is being seen time an time again, these certain 109s defy all gravity. = they are using the speed hack, they are not stalling instead after climbing the extra 3or 4000 feet after they continue there climb in a lazy left or right turn to even get even higher , with no signs of stalling , drop a wing to tighter turn (more speed loss should happen) correct me if i'm wrong in what i'm seeing , is this is really possible ? good pilots can always figure out , how to get a little more speed =agree to get 30 to 50 mph no way no how.
to get a few hundred extra feet even 1000 agree not 3 to 4000 , this has nothing to do with zoom an boom tactics

ok fair enough, 3000feet do sound much...probably too much in such a situation...and you say you see many with this behaviour???
PS: hey dawg, look at our forums, there ive posted a thread, which may be connected to the issue you are describing....

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by David198502

ok fair enough, 3000feet do sound much...probably too much in such a situation...and you say you see many with this behaviour???
PS: hey dawg, look at our forums, there ive posted a thread, which may be connected to the issue you are describing....

Salute m8 could not find link could you pm or post link please . with just 1000 hours in clod, (as of yesterday ) and flying the game almost since the start, say for instance last night 2 were using it , but numbers low 25 or so on server. one was on deck low straifing airfield concrete 1 on his second pass i dove on him i got e yay, by the time we got to grass base he was a spec before calis gone lost him an the best part i was at 4000 when started dive he was on second pass on base (so pretty sure he had to lose a tad of steam) not only should i have been able to catch him but over shoot him as well , agree ?