diving extension/pitch-back

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by BlackBerry

Agree. Dive angle, zoom angle. The most important factor of a"dive extend/pitch back" tactic is ANGLE.

I think 45 degree or so dive/zoom is usually fine, but that depends on initial energy difference/distance etc. Just be careful, if your a/c has the dive/zoom advantage, you will finally hold the energy, that's energy fight.

45 degrees? I would say (although I don't actually measure) that mine are more like 30 degrees. A proper zoom to extend fully away and out of gun range before I tighten the zoom slightly before again letting it off as the energy decreases.

Modify your technique.. see if it helps. Maybe it will.

[BlackBerry]

Originally Posted by IceFire

45 degrees? I would say (although I don't actually measure) that mine are more like 30 degrees. A proper zoom to extend fully away and out of gun range before I tighten the zoom slightly before again letting it off as the energy decreases.

Modify your technique.. see if it helps. Maybe it will.

It seems that il2 fm couldn't guarantee you beat a spitfire IX in your P47C, 1 vs 1. Zooming at 30 degree? 45 degree? Neither works.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by BlackBerry

It seems that il2 fm couldn't guarantee you beat a spitfire IX in your P47C, 1 vs 1. Zooming at 30 degree? 45 degree? Neither works.

I'd have to try it but I rarely jump to blaming the IL-2 FM for my own failings. I know both planes pretty well and I'm not sure.

We don't have a P-47C so we can't test that directly. With any of the P-47D's I know I could easily out dive a Spitfire and put some serious distance between myself and the Spit. The pull up I'm somewhat less certain of. I'd have to read up on the technique involved for sure.