BETA PATCH v.1.08.18956 - August 3, 2012

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Winger

I really dont get it. You guys got everything you wanted. Your planes turn better, dive better are almost as fast as the 109s with your 100 octane fuel. What else do you want? A Button "confirmed kill" maybe? Really start thinking about your skills instead of complaining and breaking the game with your whines.
The spits got better with every single patch. Even energylevels an allied pilot has to be plain stupid not to win the fight if the 109 doesnt run.
Its REALLY becoming annoying folks.

Winger

PS: Maybe the 110 had HUGE energyadvantage?
And btw. I at your place would rather ask to nerf the 110 instead of boosting allied fighters - especially when you already outrun german scouts with your UFO.

I thought about this a lot, whether you were being massively sarcastic or not, until I realised you were serious. That leads me to conclude that you must be a really bad pilot. I'm sorry, but what else can one draw from your comment? If you are getting shot down so easily in the current game then you must not know what you are doing.

But do not fear, our group has a Luftwaffe wing in JG26 where we have excellent pilots who will provide you with the basics you require. Just pop in at www.aircombatgroup.co.uk and have a chat, there are open forums, we can take it from there.

If you decide not to and prefer an argument, I don't. Instead I recommend you jump in any of the 100 octane types available to you and try to do all of the things that you are saying are possible. If you manage this, please tell the 'reds' how you managed it because none of us know.

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I thought about this a lot, whether you were being massively sarcastic or not, until I realised you were serious. That leads me to conclude that you must be a really bad pilot. I'm sorry, but what else can one draw from your comment? If you are getting shot down so easily in the current game then you must not know what you are doing.

But do not fear, our group has a Luftwaffe wing in JG26 where we have excellent pilots who will provide you with the basics you require. Just pop in at www.aircombatgroup.co.uk and have a chat, there are open forums, we can take it from there.

If you decide not to and prefer an argument, I don't. Instead I recommend you jump in any of the 100 octane types available to you and try to do all of the things that you are saying are possible. If you manage this, please tell the 'reds' how you managed it because none of us know.

+1 my god winger are you kidding

[Winger]

I am not saying that i get shot down easily. Sometimes i do. Surely i am not the best pilot there is.
I am just saying i am annoyed about RED side whining their planes better every patch.
And i ask again: What else do you need to be happy with RED planes performance? The logical consequence of what already happened planeperformancewise in the last patches only leaves one option: A button wich gives you a confirmed kill when you press it.
OK, now i repeaded myself enough

Winger

[BTB]

Originally Posted by Winger

I am not saying that i get shot down easily. Sometimes i do. Surely i am not the best pilot there is.
I am just saying i am annoyed about RED side whining their planes better every patch.
And i ask again: What else do you need to be happy with RED planes performance? The logical consequence of what already happened planeperformancewise in the last patches only leaves one option: A button wich gives you a confirmed kill when you press it.
OK, now i repeaded myself enough

Winger

You should look in some data sheeds for the Spit's before posting such nonsense. And fly and try them in Clod

[JG52Krupi]

certainly the 109 is fast but last time I flew it was virtually impossible to do a half decent turn without stalling.

The spit on the other hand is slower bit it can turn much better.

I try not to get into these fm discussions as they are normally full of biased people, at the end of the day the current fm's are not good enough the 109 was better in bob FACT but not by a huge margin.

P.s. when are they going to fix the 109 revi?

[Winger]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

certainly the 109 is fast but last time I flew it was virtually impossible to do a half decent turn without stalling.

The spit on the other hand is slower bit it can turn much better.

I try not to get into these fm discussions as they are normally full of biased people, at the end of the day the current fm's are not good enough the 109 was better in bob FACT but not by a huge margin.

P.s. when are they going to fix the 109 revi?

+1 I am saying nothing else. And not I am the whiner here. Dont forget that

Winger

[JTDawg]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

certainly the 109 is fast but last time I flew it was virtually impossible to do a half decent turn without stalling.

The spit on the other hand is slower bit it can turn much better.

I try not to get into these fm discussions as they are normally full of biased people, at the end of the day the current fm's are not good enough the 109 was better in bob FACT but not by a huge margin.

P.s. when are they going to fix the 109 revi?

+1 maybe you havn't flown RAF !! For those that do ,we understand , I would never say anything about the 109 fms = why becouse i don"t fly them !!! An as far as Raf whiners REALLY WE ASKED FOR THIS!! The RAF is so porked your lucky we all aren't flying blue. IMAGIN a sky without us some ai bombers to hone your skills up with! Sooner or later if they get the game right some of you so called aces will have to sharpen your tools again, an realize you just ain't that good! salute

[skouras]

personally i've always fly with the 109
simply cause i love it
but the spitfire in its current state is a mesh......FACT

[Winger]

Originally Posted by skouras

personally i've always fly with the 109
simply cause i love it
but the spitfire in its current state is a mesh......FACT

The tell me what must be changed and please sum up under the line for example like this:

Increase levelspeed at all heights RESULTING IN Higher Topspeed at all heights than 109

I really wonder what we will see afterwards. I am sure there stands something like this:

Increase RS RESULTING IN performing better in RS than 109

Increase TU RESULTING IN performing better in TU than 109

Increase VW RESULTING IN performing better in VW than 109

Increase XY RESULTING IN performing better in XY than 109

Winger

[BTB]

Originally Posted by Winger

The tell me what must be changed and please sum up under the line for example like this:

Increase levelspeed at all heights RESULTING IN Higher Topspeed at all heights than 109

I really wonder what we will see afterwards. I am sure there stands something like this:

Increase RS RESULTING IN performing better in RS than 109

Increase TU RESULTING IN performing better in TU than 109

Increase VW RESULTING IN performing better in VW than 109

Increase XY RESULTING IN performing better in XY than 109

Winger

Please Winger, inform u before posting such statements.

We are talking of top speed,rate of climb,Rpm's and the overheating issue of the Spitfire.
Not more and not less.
If your 109 would do only 400km/h level, i guess here would be a houndred topics,too ;D

Both sides want historical correctness, not more but even not less.

Before you haven't checked of what the Spitfire was capable and how it is ingame, pls stop trolling