Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ATAG_MajorBorris

Is this what months and months of internet trolls has achieved?

They finaly talked enough people out of being online ww2 pilots with petty agendas and an all out 24/7 "CoD is broke dont buy it or its sequel campaign" that the last ww2 combat flight sim is going to be a morphed into a MMO

All the forum flyers get the granddaddy of it all, a one size fits all $15 dollor a month airquake.

I thought the same, mate. Ppl saying "don't buy the sequel CoD is broken" thought they were very clever, and what they obtained is the end of the Il2 series as we know it. As the saying goes, they cut their own male tool to make their wife upset.

Encouraging the devs was free, bashing them resulted in a monthly fee for everybody.

[addman]

That's it boys! keep venting your disappointment and frustration by taking it out on others. This is going to be awesome

[Flanker35M]

S!

I would still wait for the OFFICIAL announcement before jumping into any conclusions, which seems to be the case already. My bet is that IL-2 series will continue as it's own branch like it has done for the last 10+ years and this MMO, or whatever you want to call it, is just another branch to the IL-2 franchise. Until anything solid is shown I will for sure enjoy IL-2 series until something better will emerge, which I doubt will happen any time soon.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

I would still wait for the OFFICIAL announcement before jumping into any conclusions, which seems to be the case already. My bet is that IL-2 series will continue as it's own branch like it has done for the last 10+ years and this MMO, or whatever you want to call it, is just another branch to the IL-2 franchise. Until anything solid is shown I will for sure enjoy IL-2 series until something better will emerge, which I doubt will happen any time soon.

I would like to share your optimism, but probably the dev team is too small to develop 2 parallel but different products.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

I would still wait for the OFFICIAL announcement before jumping into any conclusions, which seems to be the case already. My bet is that IL-2 series will continue as it's own branch like it has done for the last 10+ years and this MMO, or whatever you want to call it, is just another branch to the IL-2 franchise. Until anything solid is shown I will for sure enjoy IL-2 series until something better will emerge, which I doubt will happen any time soon.

Words from the wise, I tried to say the same thing in an earlier post but it seems mass-hysteria has already set in.

P.S As Flanker35M mentions below, a company's long term business decisions are not determined by a couple of hundred raving forum members. I doubt CoD would've been a million seller even if everybody was singing "praise the lord, CoD!" all day long here. Geez, what planet are you guys from anyway?

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by addman

Words from the wise, I tried to say the same thing in an earlier post but it seems mass-hysteria has already set in.

P.S As Flanker35M mentions below, a company's long term business decisions are not determined by a couple of hundred raving forum members. I doubt CoD would've been a million seller even if everybody was singing "praise the lord, CoD!" all day long here. Geez, what planet are you guys from anyway?

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

I would wager the decision would come primarily from the popularity of other MMO's lately. I can't remember one post at this forum asking for a more dumbed down, arcade MMO experience. COD is supposed to support 128 player online battles....isn't that a form of a MMO?

[MadBlaster]

at present, the hardware requirements of the game seem in conflict/barrier to entry with mmo. unless, they build the game to accomodate one cheap solution that allows for headtracking and multi-profile controls. if all users were to use the same or compatible hardware available to them, I think this could be done. something like freetrack capability could be built into the game to accomodate generic webcam. Also, all the controls necessary to fly the plane could be downloaded from the server to the user. Everyone flies with certian cheap but decent joystick (e.g., thrustmater 16000 designated official game status) and a generic form gamepad or two( e.g., logitech). the player logs on and selects a plane. the profile gets loaded to the client and bam, your good to go. all cheap and easy. keep full real flight models. that makes the game good. leave out arcade stuff. if players want to play mmo with different/better quality hardware, they could request and if demand is enough, the developer would provide it as and add on at a price to cover additional development time/costs. the idea is to get a lot of people on board without sacrificing realism and keeping it cost effective for the user.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

Yeah - that's usually how most businesses run. Without their customers they don't really have much of a business. And obviously without a good product they don't really have much of a customer base.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

If I wanted to make more money I would see what the competition was doing and use their winning recipe spiced with something better of my own and something that the competition isn't doing, in this case CoD has and edge in FM/DM and many other areas. Now add a pinch of MMO and BOOM! you have a deeper and more realistic MMO than the competition. People will get bored quickly of World of Warplanes and start looking for a deeper experience, IL-2 MMO takes them in with open arms = $/€

The big wigs don't care about some forum members, lol! you have very high thoughts about the importance of the keyboard warriors around here. They look at numbers and how to improve numbers, not about cater to a small group of elitist simmers.

P.S Won't post anything more in here until there is an official statement.