Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion)

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by addman

Words from the wise, I tried to say the same thing in an earlier post but it seems mass-hysteria has already set in.

P.S As Flanker35M mentions below, a company's long term business decisions are not determined by a couple of hundred raving forum members. I doubt CoD would've been a million seller even if everybody was singing "praise the lord, CoD!" all day long here. Geez, what planet are you guys from anyway?

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

I would wager the decision would come primarily from the popularity of other MMO's lately. I can't remember one post at this forum asking for a more dumbed down, arcade MMO experience. COD is supposed to support 128 player online battles....isn't that a form of a MMO?

[MadBlaster]

at present, the hardware requirements of the game seem in conflict/barrier to entry with mmo. unless, they build the game to accomodate one cheap solution that allows for headtracking and multi-profile controls. if all users were to use the same or compatible hardware available to them, I think this could be done. something like freetrack capability could be built into the game to accomodate generic webcam. Also, all the controls necessary to fly the plane could be downloaded from the server to the user. Everyone flies with certian cheap but decent joystick (e.g., thrustmater 16000 designated official game status) and a generic form gamepad or two( e.g., logitech). the player logs on and selects a plane. the profile gets loaded to the client and bam, your good to go. all cheap and easy. keep full real flight models. that makes the game good. leave out arcade stuff. if players want to play mmo with different/better quality hardware, they could request and if demand is enough, the developer would provide it as and add on at a price to cover additional development time/costs. the idea is to get a lot of people on board without sacrificing realism and keeping it cost effective for the user.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

Yeah - that's usually how most businesses run. Without their customers they don't really have much of a business. And obviously without a good product they don't really have much of a customer base.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as I know and practice everyday, company business decisions are very often determined by customers' feedbacks, opinion polls, marketing intelligence. This forum is a window on CoD's customer base, don't you think that a prudent management would take into account those 200 forum members orientation when deciding where to put their bets? I would do so, at any rate.

Cheers!

If I wanted to make more money I would see what the competition was doing and use their winning recipe spiced with something better of my own and something that the competition isn't doing, in this case CoD has and edge in FM/DM and many other areas. Now add a pinch of MMO and BOOM! you have a deeper and more realistic MMO than the competition. People will get bored quickly of World of Warplanes and start looking for a deeper experience, IL-2 MMO takes them in with open arms = $/€

The big wigs don't care about some forum members, lol! you have very high thoughts about the importance of the keyboard warriors around here. They look at numbers and how to improve numbers, not about cater to a small group of elitist simmers.

P.S Won't post anything more in here until there is an official statement.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by addman

If I wanted to make more money I would see what the competition was doing and use their winning recipe spiced with something better of my own and something that the competition isn't doing, in this case CoD has and edge in FM/DM and many other areas. Now add a pinch of MMO and BOOM! you have a deeper and more realistic MMO than the competition. People will get bored quickly of World of Warplanes and start looking for a deeper experience, IL-2 MMO takes them in with open arms = $/€

The big wigs don't care about some forum members, lol! you have very high thoughts about the importance of the keyboard warriors around here. They look at numbers and how to improve numbers, not about cater to a small group of elitist simmers.

P.S Won't post anything more in here until there is an official statement.

I would agree that the customers that bought COD are, and have been, something that hasn't concerned them much.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Pure gold

Those who once said how important it is that thier (negative) voice be heard here in the forum are now trying to play down the idea that thier (negative) voice 'was' heard and may have drove the 1C bean counters down the MMO path

Last time I saw a someone back peddle that fast they got thier pant leg caught in the chain and fell over!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Pure gold

Those who once said how important it is that thier (negative) voice be heard here in the forum are now trying to play down the idea that thier (negative) voice 'was' heard and may have drove the 1C bean counters down the MMO path

Last time I saw a someone back peddle that fast they got thier pant leg caught in the chain and fell over!

I don't see what you would be upset about Ace...it was folks like you and Robtek that were always spewing that faithful " I have over 500 hours playing, I got more than my money's worth out of it". It's crap like that that did more damage than any negative posts. Since you got your money's worth, I'm guessing you were looking forward to their next effort.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

I don't see what you would be upset about Ace...it was folks like you and Robtek that were always spewing that faithful " I have over 500 hours playing, I got more than my money's worth out of it". It's crap like that that did more damage than any negative posts. Since you got your money's worth, I'm guessing you were looking forward to their next effort.

Who said I was upset?

I just made note of all the chain oil on your pant leg!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Who said I was upset?

I just made note of all the chain oil on your pant leg!

How am I backpeddling exactly? COD was a turkey at release, still is a year later, and people have been predicting it would never be fixed. You kept assuring folks that they were crazy and didn't know what they were talking about. (put a rubber band around your pantleg, that sprocket can put holes in it....much like the holes in your analogy)