Is there an internal Testers / Beta Tester Group?

[MadTommy]

I'd like to point out.. not once have i said open beta testing is a bad thing! In fact i've only said it is a good thing! The fact that I personally don't want to spend my time testing this software has no relation to it.

However i cannot understand how dedicated testers with a direct link to the developers can be a bad thing. Maybe someone can answer that! I'd like to think maddox games would be using every option available to them at this point, clearly there are many dedicated fans of the series who would likely relish being testers and help a great deal. And clearly there are many issues with the game.

If you think a handful of test machines in Russia can do the same job as 30-50 serious fans at testing bugs.. well so be it.

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

However i cannot understand how dedicated testers with a direct link to the developers can be a bad thing. Maybe someone can answer that!

It is pretty much superfluous when we have a forum full of people testing the patch, reporting bugs on the bugtracker and giving the crash dump files (which is what they need to fix the CTDs). If it passes their internal testing and is stable, then why shouldn't they try to get as many crash dumps as possible? Why limit the sample size? As the devs themselves said- they got lucky with a crash dump giving the exact problem they needed which would have been statistically more unlikely with a smaller number of testers.

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

I'd like to point out.. not once have i said open beta testing is a bad thing! In fact i've only said it is a good thing! The fact that I personally don't want to spend my time testing this software has no relation to it.

However i cannot understand how dedicated testers with a direct link to the developers can be a bad thing. Maybe someone can answer that! I'd like to think maddox games would be using every option available to them at this point, clearly there are many dedicated fans of the series who would likely relish being testers and help a great deal. And clearly there are many issues with the game.

If you think a handful of test machines in Russia can do the same job as 30-50 serious fans at testing bugs.. well so be it.

Probably would be a good thing, I think DCS does this, the fact is that it is a shoulda/woulda/coulda at this point, perhaps they will reassess their development plans in the future, but it wont do much good at this point for this release and the state of mind their current customer base is in...

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by MadTommy

I'd like to point out.. not once have i said open beta testing is a bad thing! In fact i've only said it is a good thing! The fact that I personally don't want to spend my time testing this software has no relation to it.

However i cannot understand how dedicated testers with a direct link to the developers can be a bad thing. Maybe someone can answer that! I'd like to think maddox games would be using every option available to them at this point, clearly there are many dedicated fans of the series who would likely relish being testers and help a great deal. And clearly there are many issues with the game.

If you think a handful of test machines in Russia can do the same job as 30-50 serious fans at testing bugs.. well so be it.

Roger, thanks for clarifying. Initially it seemed to me as if you preferred closed testing over open testing and that's why i was probing around for an explanation. Cheers