FPS solution that's worked for me.

Stublerone · #1 05-11-2012, 08:30 AM

Right, but I wonder, why you buy expensive stuff and do not know the essentials, PotNoodles?

HT, Speedstep, TM and so on can all be issues for bad OC results and hick ups of your cpu.

But as I see on your 680 and your 4GB Ram (which should be at least 6 or better with your video card 8 and more GB), you are not well prepared, but already overclocked your rig. That is strange amd it seems, that you just pulled some sliders in the bios to 4 GHz and not read an overclocking guide for your specific cpu and its stepping/revision/serial number.

You should invest some minutes for your OC, because you are currently running without knowing, what actually happens to your system. Not that you soon get a destroyed system, because it is running on bad settings for its lifetime.

Just a tipp!

PotNoodles · #2 05-11-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stublerone

Right, but I wonder, why you buy expensive stuff and do not know the essentials, PotNoodles?

HT, Speedstep, TM and so on can all be issues for bad OC results and hick ups of your cpu.

But as I see on your 680 and your 4GB Ram (which should be at least 6 or better with your video card 8 and more GB), you are not well prepared, but already overclocked your rig. That is strange amd it seems, that you just pulled some sliders in the bios to 4 GHz and not read an overclocking guide for your specific cpu and its stepping/revision/serial number.

You should invest some minutes for your OC, because you are currently running without knowing, what actually happens to your system. Not that you soon get a destroyed system, because it is running on bad settings for its lifetime.

Just a tipp!

Can I just say that is where you are completely wrong! This overclock is done by proper Techs and was sold to me ready overclocked by a well established firm. I was told that if I add more then 4 gig of Ram that I would lose the overclock and it's funny how I have never had a freeze or shut down which would indicate it had been badly overclocked. I have read all about Hyper threading since discovering about it and now I know it's better to have it switched off. Well in my case it must be because it's vastly improved my FPS and my cores are all at low temps because I monitor them with with core Temp. Not one core is above 46c. So where again is this overclock done badly?

Edit: I have noticed that turning TM support back on I still get FPS so this is all to do with the Hyperthreading been disabled.

JG52Krupi · #3 05-11-2012, 12:32 PM

Tbh I have neverheard of adding ram ruining an overclock seems foolish to me, have a word with tree or Phat they seem to be this forums resident supercomputer builders.

JG52Uther · #4 05-11-2012, 12:38 PM

PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.

PotNoodles · #5 05-11-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

PotNoodles did you get your system from OCUK? Its just that they do say that adding more ram can affect the overclock on their overclocked bundles. That could be more to do with the way they set them up though, ram voltages etc.

No I got it from CCL computers. Would you say 4 gig ram isn't enough because I am told it is enough for all games, but I am willing to listen to any advice.

JG52Uther · #6 05-11-2012, 12:54 PM

I have 4 GB's it works fine for me. My next system will have 8 though. Ram is cheap now, so I would recommend at least 2 x 4GB.
With the desastersoft addon I think they are recommending 12 GB!

JG52Krupi · #7 05-11-2012, 12:58 PM

I think 6gb is enough 8gb is perfect anymore is only useful ATM if you are doing video editing etc.

Stublerone · #8 05-11-2012, 01:25 PM

@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know...

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers.

PotNoodles · #9 05-11-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stublerone

@ PotNoodles: I just wanted to say, that it could be badly oc'ed. As u state about professional: They perhaps just spent some seconds for you in the BIOS to get a higher price(?) You never know...

The 4GB thinh sounds very strange to me. Who will buy such a rig with so few RAM? And then you have a video card, which is performing good, but is totally old fashioned concerning memory. Several guys posted about the great videi card, but the guys, who have some negative concerns about it were not heard.

If you are running CloD at 1920x1080 with high settings, you should see, that video memory gets full! I personally have up to 2,7 GB video ram usage and the normal ram also has some jobs to do.

Just want to say, that the decision to buy a more expensive video card with lowered or no support of some keyfeatures of todays standard cards is also a decision of your own. I do personally (as a nvidia fanboy) NOT recommend to buy the 680, if you want to use it a bit longer than 1 year or less.

Streaming engines could get more and more important for complex games with large areas. So, this methods and better textures, etc. will be the main thing = higher VRam is recommended in future. This is my opinion.

I like nvidia and was positively surprised of its performance, but after detailed discussions and reading lots of reviews, I finally came to the conclusion, that the hd 7970 is the better card for me (multi monitor and sim games with high memory usage....). Although I hate catalyst drivers.

I already stated I made a mistake with the Ram! I have 6 gig and will put my spec in sig in future. This card is quicker then your card for the time been and in 2 years time I will buy another with more Vram. I could have bought a Palit Geforce with 4gig but I decided on this for it's overclock. I am sure this card will last me longer then a year lol.

Stublerone · #10 05-11-2012, 02:07 PM

I saw it

6 GB is enough at the moment.

But I do not want to discuss, which card is faster. Over all games with both fully overclocked to a speed, where nearly all serial production models of both cards are able to reach and with 1680x1050 and even 1920x1080, both cards are fighting closely. So it is not faster than mine or mine is not faster than yours.

But I have a card which bust your card at higher res. As I will run CloD on triple 27" monitors soon, the ati is my shot.

And missing BIOS entries for new pci-e speed, the lag of gpgpu units and the memory, which is to low for high end and for CloD causes me to buy the ati. For that price, they are currently just getting some new customers not aware of the current market. Your buy is nott wrong, but with such a price and officially stated lack of some normal features (this card is shrinked in its features) is just to show a good alternative to the ati card, until they will introduce the big kepler.

So, u nearly buy 3/4 of a graphics card for the money of 1 1/4 of a same performing alternative. I personally do not want to do that.