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[palker4]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

well most WW2 planes are a monocoque design, so you can't really "skin" them, they would just bend and break. Some have their panels partially removed or cut to show the inside structure though, you can find them in several museums.

Well i have seen MiG-21 that had most almost all of its skin removed on one side of the fuselage. I think that most aircraft would survive such treatment

[taildraggernut]

Mig-21 is not a stressed skin construction.....well it kind of is, but it's built using heavier and stiffer formers and spars which are much more self supporting.

Maybe a Hurricane or other fabric covered aircraft can be displayed that way, but a typical WWII all metal airframe is a monocoque (stressed skin) and would deffinately bend and wobble with no skin on.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

Mig-21 is not a stressed skin construction.....well it kind of is, but it's built using heavier and stiffer formers and spars which are much more self supporting.

Maybe a Hurricane or other fabric covered aircraft can be displayed that way, but a typical WWII all metal airframe is a monocoque (stressed skin) and would deffinately bend and wobble with no skin on.

^ what he said.

[palker4]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

^ what he said.

Whatever I guess you are the expert. What idiot would used stressed skin construction on supersonic jet makes no sense.

[Krt_Bong]

Has anyone noted the position of the Throttle? seems like it's nearly 3/4 to Full.

[smurf-oly]

I didn't see this link posted anywhere in this thread.... many more photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/1146825...at=directlink#

[BadAim]

That's great, thanks for sharing. Too bad there is nothing in there to sqpecifically identify plane and pilot. I pray this treasure falls into the right hands.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by smurf-oly

I didn't see this link posted anywhere in this thread.... many more photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/1146825...at=directlink#

thanks for the extra link! A lot more pictures and interesting details coming up! Unfortunately they've already tampered enough with that poor relic, let's hope it finds a home soon before it gets vandalised for good..

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by palker4

Whatever I guess you are the expert. What idiot would used stressed skin construction on supersonic jet makes no sense.

I guess I am yes

Seriously, to be 100% accurate what we have on WW2 and modern fighters is a semi-monocoque construction, where the combination of stringers, bulkheads and stressed skin makes for the shape and robustness of the aircraft.
The reason is mainly because you save a lot of weight and material by doing things this way: whilst it's unthinkable to do a supersonic fuselage on a traditional Warren truss & canvas method, the use of an all metal structure needs to be thought after in a practical and weight saving manner.

There are interesting transitional hybrids, which were a good compromise between performance and structural ruggedness, such as the Hurricane and the S.79 Sparviero. They both sported a mixed solution of tubular frame covered with canvas/metal and semi-monocoque parts, like the semi-monocoque metal wing of the Hurri or the wooden box construction of the Sparviero's wing.

Some other designs weren't particularly happy, but proved to be very rugged, like the Vickers Wellington's geodetic structure.

Another fantastic example of non hortodox aeronautical engineering is the structure of the DeHavilland Mosquito, almost completely made of a wood sandwich which can be imagined as a sort of pre-historic carbon fibre.