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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-13-2012, 06:50 PM
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Thank you for the readme. Very soothing. If we can get the performance to be stable, I could finally build myself an Ivy Bridge and go train some gunnery in massive offline flights until the coop feature gets into CloD.

Good luck with the testing.

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I think you guys need to cool down a bit. You get it bloody wrong. First, we don't know exactly how the planes are going to stack up against eachother in game. The Mk2 spit WAS too fast. So was the rotol hurri at some alts. This are going to be toned down a bit. The mk1 Spit on the other hand will be better, so, online you'll have much more close to real world behaviour. Most people preffered the Hurri over the Spit online, wich was wrong. This will be fixed now.
I'd say let's just wait for the patch, test it and then talk about this please.
That is just the sign of things to come. If the game gets fixed, the same complainers will find somethin else, anything, to be mad about. Hopefully some day it will be our only problem. Because people like me fought those forum wars in 2002-2005 and can`t be bothered to start them again.

People sniff out a POSSIBILITY of their fav ride being porked and they go on a crusade. I was like that few years ago, now I think it`s just funny.

No coop yet. Cool. So maybe we could go on with it when the games fixed first? Wouldn`t that be good? I don`t know why a "step by step" concept is so hard to understand for some people.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
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People sniff out a POSSIBILITY of their fav ride being porked and they go on a crusade. I was like that few years ago, now I think it`s just funny.
but we do need an objective and factual way to quantify differences in aircraft performances, and we currently dont have this for CoD (il2 compare filled that purpose in the old il2 series). so people are somewhat justified to cry fire when they feel their favored ride isnt performing as it historically should in comparison to other specific aircraft (eg spitfire vs 109 of the same period)

the only thing we ask for in CoD and the continuing series, is that these historical differences are modeled accurately, AND that information on their modeled performance characteristics in the sim is openly provided (so we can test ingame this is indeed the case)

currently this is not the case, hence there will be a significant increase in paranoia about under-performing aircraft
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:26 PM
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the only thing we ask for in CoD and the continuing series, is that these historical differences are modeled accurately, AND that information on their modeled performance characteristics in the sim is openly provided (so we can test ingame this is indeed the case)

currently this is not the case, hence there will be a significant increase in paranoia about under-performing aircraft
Ofcourse, zapatista. No point denying it. No realistic relative plane performance means no realistic tactics means no realistic battles means arcade gameplay.

I would also like for CloD to have something resembling the IL2 encyclopedia. Which ,even if portrayed the differences pretty blurry, gave an idea of what one could expect from a certain aircraft. For avodining absurdity, I`m perfectly able to see the effort(resources)-wasting with cut`npasting the entire WWII avionics history into the game. Nah, we just need the charts, some numbers (ex. : max oil temperature) that ACTUALLY RESEMBLE WHAT IS IN THE GAME, even if a little off the real data.
That is to say - not to recreate pilot manuals, but to recreate aircraft battles and pilot WWII combat experience.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:23 PM
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Carguy,

Skąd jesteś ?
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:25 PM
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Happy to hear its almost done.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:32 PM
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Personally, I can live with things being imperfect while they`re patching CLOD, this may well be the testing ground.

For BOM however, the bar is going to be raised high and the devs should not expect any leniency (as they`ve received plent of it over the last year) - this needs to be ROF of the WWII theatre, anything less will be disappointment.
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