The Crystal Ball 2

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Considering some of Luthier's and BlackSix's posts, I'm quite sure that the devs are just as annoyed with the community as some in the community are with them.

I'm sure that's true. It is really unfortunate and sad that it has got to this stage. Unfortunately, it seems that they are unable to get the community onside for any length of time.

Getting BlackSix in to liaise with us was a great idea, but to make it work Luthier has to be prepared to release information for him to supply to us. To put BlackSix in place to 'communicate' with us and then not give him the authority to tell us anything is monumentally self-defeating.

Maybe it's a Russian thing? I don't know. Information about the patch has been guarded as if it was highly important state secrets. It's not the delay in releasing the patch that is annoying people, it's the absence of ANY meaningful information. People can put up with being stone-walled for so long, but eventually they start to get annoyed. That unfortunately is what has happened here.

And why can they not give some measured info? I mean, really?!?! They keep creating needless crises through sheer stubbornness it seems. (I'm well aware that there are people on the forums who could try the patience of a saint, but the devs stubbornness is pushing many of us in the centre-ground in the same direction)

Originally Posted by Chivas

This next patch is critical, to the sims survival, it needs a considerable performance boost to allow integration of all the missing resource hungry features.

Agreed. Fingers crossed it does the job.

[Fjordmonkey]

The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.

I used to subscribe to that viewpoint.

But situations change. What worked and was an appropriate strategy four months ago may not be the correct approach now.

When it was merely 'the usual suspects' making the noises, keeping tight-lipped may have been a good approach. But I genuinely think that the situation is different now. It is very natural for people to want news on progress of the patch and the plans for COD's development and I believe the devs risk alienating a lot of their core support if they maintain the same no-communication approach.

I'm also genuinely at a loss for a reason why they can't not tell us some carefully picked bits of info. They could have nipped this in the bud long ago by being a bit more savvy.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.

Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.

Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy it. If you don't have the foresight to expect issues in something as ambitious as this, then you shouldn't buy it in the first place.

Caveat Emptor. Pure and simple.

Will I personally be a bit more interested in reading what others has to say about the expansionpack before I buy it? Hell yes. Does that mean I'll go off on a rampage when/if an eventual buy blows up in my face? No. It means I'll notch it up as yet another bad usage of $50, and leave it at that.

Does the Devs owe us? Maybe. But patience is a virtue that's a DAMN rare commodity these days, and these forums are a damn good example of just that. Hell, people here are even more rabid than MMO'ers, and that's saying something.

[robtek]

I am pretty shure that everybody saying he/she/it wont buy the sequel, or anything from 1c/MG, is either a troll, not doing any wwii combat-flightsimming anyway, or used to lie to himself!

[von Brühl]

Originally Posted by robtek

I am pretty shure that everybody saying he/she/it wont buy the sequel, or anything from 1c/MG, is either a troll, not doing any wwii combat-flightsimming anyway, or used to lie to himself!

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

[Icebear]

Originally Posted by von Brühl

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

+1

what else ?

[Gabelschwanz Teufel]

Originally Posted by von Brühl

Everyone doing combat-flight simming is probably playing 1946.

Yep!

[Ploughman]

"IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games."

Sounds great, when can I expect it?