Some questions...

[mitra]

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

1. Does something like charge bonus exist? I can't find anything about it in manual.

2. Does a unit get penalty/bonus for fighting uphill/downhill?

3. Are there any differences between units except 5-6 basic parameters with 0-3 possible values. For example - does the efficiency of a western swordsman maxed to 3/3/3.. will be the same as Russ version maxed to 3/3/3..? If there are other hidden parameters, please, tell me where I can find them.

4. Does the editor added to the game can only handle map modifications or I can add/modify units with it? Does a manual for this editor exist?

5. Is there any skill points cap for the commander skills?

Yes are all things in the game routines; have a little of patience, I will take a look to interpreted code for a short description of algorithm; if you know a little of script or programming languages I can explain you how to see them yourself

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

Unfortunately, significant number of bugs makes this game very irritating after a short time.

They are working on them don't worry

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

I can get over with most of them except stupid battle AI. For god sake this game is all about battles. I still occasionally play first Medieval:TW and this 10 year old game has battle AI that beats RW2 in every possible way. IMO it's the first thing that has to be fixed.

Well about the AI I read on various forum and reviewers and from my italian friend which take the game the opposite judgement (the played to TW also). I suppose is a matter of gaming experiences and perceptions of various players

[Goblin Wizard]

Originally Posted by mitra

Yes are all things in the game routines; have a little of patience, I will take a look to interpreted code for a short description of algorithm; if you know a little of script or programming languages I can explain you how to see them yourself

I know a little about programming. Let me know where I should look for. If I have any problems I ask again.

Originally Posted by mitra

Well about the AI I read on various forum and reviewers and from my italian friend which take the game the opposite judgement (the played to TW also). I suppose is a matter of gaming experiences and perceptions of various players

I don't want to argue with you so I'll give you an example from one of my latest battles:
AI took defensive positions and stood still. I set my units in line in front of AI's line. AI didn't want to attack first so I sent one of my archers on the enemy flank and started to shoot. 1st unit was reduced by more than 50%...2nd unit was reduced by more than 50%.. when the 3rd unit was close to 50% of loses AI started to react but it was far too late. My archers were firing from the short range and from the flank so they killed more than 250 enemy soldiers without loosing even one man. AI had archers too but from the unknown reasons decided not to shoot or react in any other way. How would you call that type of behavior?

Additional question: Does the number of rows in archers unit has any influence on the shooting efficiency (accuracy, damage)?

[mitra]

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

I know a little about programming. Let me know where I should look for. If I have any problems I ask again.

1 - open editor.exe
2 - from the menu of editor select "editor script->states machines"
3 - you will see a list of aix files and a button edit
4 - every aix files contains the battle mechanics and the AI routines: example
west europe global.aix contains AI routines, west europe group.aix the routine for group factors in battle, all the others manage routines of single soldiers or objects (open one of them with edit).
5 each aix contains different states which are a logical block of code (something similar to a class), the states are called in a logical sequence starting from a the state main. THe state have names sufficient speaking for understand what they do, wihtout reading all the before.

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

I don't want to argue with you so I'll give you an example from one of my latest battles:
AI took defensive positions and stood still. I set my units in line in front of AI's line. AI didn't want to attack first so I sent one of my archers on the enemy flank and started to shoot. 1st unit was reduced by more than 50%...2nd unit was reduced by more than 50%.. when the 3rd unit was close to 50% of loses AI started to react but it was far too late. My archers were firing from the short range and from the flank so they killed more than 250 enemy soldiers without loosing even one man. AI had archers too but from the unknown reasons decided not to shoot or react in any other way. How would you call that type of behavior?

This is the behaviour of peasants armies, the ai in game has three behaviour preset, defensive, aggressive, free (you can set it manually in custom battle). Depending from the situation or army type on the campaign map you has different behaviour. Anyway if you read the scripts you will see how logic the AI apply in reaction to situations.

[Goblin Wizard]

Thanks a lot! Could you tell me one more thing - where (in editor) I can find units' stats, equipment, development trees, etc.?

btw Are all your youtube videos and pdf guides for RW1242 applicable for RW2:NC too?

[mitra]

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

Thanks a lot! Could you tell me one more thing - where (in editor) I can find units' stats, equipment, development trees, etc.?

In the initial state of various aix is where the fixed constans are set for units or soldier. Make attention they are not absolute but are influenced by other fixed values or external variable values. Example from the state you will see the great axe used by western axemen and by russian elite axemen is the same, what make difference is the different ability with the primary weapon. You will see troops with shield bonus but shield bonus is applied only if the direction of hit comes from a direction where shield can intercept it. etc
The development trees must be part of one of interface .aix (that which manages the GUI and the menus) but is new, still I don't have found it. Perhaps is read by the AIX state using a text file.

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

btw Are all your youtube videos and pdf guides for RW1242 applicable for RW2:NC too?

For tactical battle yes

[ThisIsRealWarfare]

Originally Posted by mitra

In the initial state of various aix is where the fixed constans are set for units or soldier. Make attention they are not absolute but are influenced by other fixed values or external variable values. Example from the state you will see the great axe used by western axemen and by russian elite axemen is the same, what make difference is the different ability with the primary weapon. You will see troops with shield bonus but shield bonus is applied only if the direction of hit comes from a direction where shield can intercept it. etc
The development trees must be part of one of interface .aix (that which manages the GUI and the menus) but is new, still I don't have found it. Perhaps is read by the AIX state using a text file.



For tactical battle yes

That is very interesting. *Excited*
Now Im wondering, any idea how to change so camera will strafe in 2 directions simultaneously? (Compare to Total War Series). What I mean is, Strafing for example down and left = moving the camera "southeast", if you get what I mean. I'd so much appreciate if anyone knows how to do that

[mitra]

Originally Posted by ThisIsRealWarfare

That is very interesting. *Excited*
Now Im wondering, any idea how to change so camera will strafe in 2 directions simultaneously? (Compare to Total War Series). What I mean is, Strafing for example down and left = moving the camera "southeast", if you get what I mean. I'd so much appreciate if anyone knows how to do that

Camera movement is controlled by scripts, I think is one or more states in gui.aix which contains the states related to battle GUI. A modder can add new movements from here

[Goblin Wizard]

Originally Posted by mitra

Example from the state you will see the great axe used by western axemen and by russian elite axemen is the same, what make difference is the different ability with the primary weapon.

Could you explain "the different ability with the primary weapon"? Any examples of these abilities?

Another thing - how the reinforcements cost is scaled (..\data\gui\map.gui.aix)

var restorePrice : Integer;
[*] = ;         if selectedCommander > 0 then
[*] = ;         restorePrice := floor(100*selectedUnitsCountByTemplate*(1+1.5*selectedIntSize)) //restore of first humans squad cost less
[*] = ;         else
[*] = ;         begin
[*] = ;            var armorKoef : Integer = 2;
[*] = ;            case selectedUnitArmor of
[*] = ;               0 : armorKoef := 2;
[*] = ;               1 : armorKoef := 4;
[*] = ;               2 : armorKoef := 8;
[*] = ;               3 : armorKoef := 12;
[*] = ;            end;
[*] = ;            restorePrice := selectedPrice * armorKoef;
[*] = ;         end

This part looks ok but a few lines below we can see something like this:

var armorKoef : Integer = 1;
[*] = ;      case selectedUnitArmor of
[*] = ;         0 : armorKoef := 1;
[*] = ;         1 : armorKoef := 1;
[*] = ;         2 : armorKoef := 10;
[*] = ;         3 : armorKoef := 10;
[*] = ;      end;
[*] = ;      selectedPrice := selectedPrice * armorKoef;

I'm curious why units with armor >1 cost 10 times more to reinforce? Maybe it works under different circumstances?

Units with shields on the back. When does such a unit use shield or when the shield works?

[ThisIsRealWarfare]

I am still struggling with how to change the strafing. What I find is alots of variables and stuff. Does anybody have any idea where to adjust it? (As said before, I want to change so that you can strafe in 2 directions simultaneously - for example Up and Right = would be "Northeast"). I am so curious, and I cant wait for an answer

[mitra]

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

Could you explain "the different ability with the primary weapon"? Any examples of these abilities?

Primary weapon is the bonus you give in the upgrade unit screen, with value from 0 to 3. Higher is the value higher is the efficiency on the use of weapons . At example it modify the possibility to make a hit but not the factor related to weapon type (like armour piercing capacity or maximum damage).

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

Another thing - how the reinforcements cost is scaled (..\data\gui\map.gui.aix)

var restorePrice : Integer;
[*] = ;         if selectedCommander > 0 then
[*] = ;         restorePrice := floor(100*selectedUnitsCountByTemplate*(1+1.5*selectedIntSize)) //restore of first humans squad cost less
[*] = ;         else
[*] = ;         begin
[*] = ;            var armorKoef : Integer = 2;
[*] = ;            case selectedUnitArmor of
[*] = ;               0 : armorKoef := 2;
[*] = ;               1 : armorKoef := 4;
[*] = ;               2 : armorKoef := 8;
[*] = ;               3 : armorKoef := 12;
[*] = ;            end;
[*] = ;            restorePrice := selectedPrice * armorKoef;
[*] = ;         end

This part looks ok but a few lines below we can see something like this:

var armorKoef : Integer = 1;
[*] = ;      case selectedUnitArmor of
[*] = ;         0 : armorKoef := 1;
[*] = ;         1 : armorKoef := 1;
[*] = ;         2 : armorKoef := 10;
[*] = ;         3 : armorKoef := 10;
[*] = ;      end;
[*] = ;      selectedPrice := selectedPrice * armorKoef;

I'm curious why units with armor >1 cost 10 times more to reinforce? Maybe it works under different circumstances?

Armour 3 is a very expensive value, because make a big difference in fight (is a complete knight armour) it was the more expensive things in war with the warhorse. The routine suppose if you must reinforce a unit of knights you must pay also for their equipment which is more expensive of that of militia.

I see you start soon to play with the code

Units with shields on the back. When does such a unit use shield or when the shield works?

BLock hit from the back direction, if I remember well the routines