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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:31 AM
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You can mock me all you want, but the mass majority of forum members know that concerns that I raised on here during development sadly came to fruition, I understand why this miffs you somewhat, you didn't have the sense or forsight to see what was happening you blindly followed the pack. It must be awful to wake up one morning to realise that you are a sheep, you have no thoughts of your own you wait for public opinion before you jump on the bandwagon lashing out at those who see things differently, taking your lead from the pack. Sadly, Your not alone, its a trend that as far more reaching issues than just a rubbish video game.
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:15 AM
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Sorry, i can' leave that unanswered.

TreeUK, with all respect, the mass majority of forum members know that you raised so many different concerns during developement that it was unavoidable that some hit a spot.

That was pure luck and maybe educated guesses, not more.

To deduct from that that others didn't have the same foresight as you is preposterous.

Just swimming against the current doesn't give you more insight or makes you more right.

I still build my own opinion, and where i take my leads from, well, i know it and you don't.

But then, you are not alone on your bandwagon, thankfully there are not many who share your world of doom and gloom.
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Old 11-14-2011, 08:11 AM
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Sorry, i can' leave that unanswered.

TreeUK, with all respect, the mass majority of forum members know that you raised so many different concerns during developement that it was unavoidable that some hit a spot.

That was pure luck and maybe educated guesses, not more.

To deduct from that that others didn't have the same foresight as you is preposterous.

Just swimming against the current doesn't give you more insight or makes you more right.

I still build my own opinion, and where i take my leads from, well, i know it and you don't.

But then, you are not alone on your bandwagon, thankfully there are not many who share your world of doom and gloom.
C'mon Robtek. It was more than that. Tree ain't faultless, but he did repeatedly question why the developers refused to show the game flying aircraft over land before release. They pretty much refused to do so until a few weeks before release. And he was mocked by many (including the developers) for asking such questions. We all know now that they refused to show the sim running over landscape because we would have been shocked at how broken/unfinished the thing was. It looks now as though it was a campaign of active deception by the developers and it is one that I am still now struggling to forgive.
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:22 AM
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C'mon Robtek. It was more than that. Tree ain't faultless, but he did repeatedly question why the developers refused to show the game flying aircraft over land before release. They pretty much refused to do so until a few weeks before release. And he was mocked by many (including the developers) for asking such questions. We all know now that they refused to show the sim running over landscape because we would have been shocked at how broken/unfinished the thing was. It looks now as though it was a campaign of active deception by the developers and it is one that I am still now struggling to forgive.
No one is faultless, but your deduction is still a assumption and no proven fact, doesn't matter how probable.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:26 AM
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No one is faultless, but your deduction is still a assumption and no proven fact, doesn't matter how probable.
Yes, and to be more exactly, the very most probable assumption I can think of. If the devs had other reasons, where is their plausible explanation?
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