Luthier Update Clarification Please

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Please. Tree pre-ordered the game. And he'll probably pre-order the sequel.

Oh you can bet he will!

On that note.. Is it just me.. Or does there seem to be more to it than some of these whinners are letting on? I mean really.. All this over $50 for a game? Most of these guys sound like they spend $1,000+ on a prom dress and Oleg never showed up to take them to the prom.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Oh you can bet he will!

On that note.. Is it just me.. Or does there seem to be more to it than some of these whinners are letting on? I mean really.. All this over $50 for a game? Most of these guys sound like they spend $1,000+ on a prom dress and Oleg never showed up to take them to the prom.

+1

Despite its many faults, CoD has been the best 50 bucks I've spent in a long time. Have enjoyed many hours flying the ATAG server with you guys, and using Teamspeak to greatly enhance the experience (including joking how similar Snapper, Sniper, Striker, etc. sound in the heat of a dogfight).

When I think of the money I've blown on bad hardware AND software over the years.........50 lousy bucks is NUTHIN'!!!!!!!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Oh you can bet he will!

On that note.. Is it just me.. Or does there seem to be more to it than some of these whinners are letting on? I mean really.. All this over $50 for a game? Most of these guys sound like they spend $1,000+ on a prom dress and Oleg never showed up to take them to the prom.

Hmmm, I agree with you on the $50 issue, however there was a huge amount of speculation on the game, underpinned by gloriously extravagent (and largely wrong) statements from Oleg on what the game would be like on release. I believe the community is largely self-destructive in its ability to get worked up over minor issues (as you suggest towards), however Oleg's statements can't be ignored. IMHO, many of us were duped into believing the game would be something it wasn't on release. The most tangible example were the release videos: filmed at 1/8 speed and aimed at showing a 'playable game'. Yes, it showed the game was playable, but we weren't aware the game was running at 1/8 speed for it to be playable at that stage. This is the most palpable, and upsetting, part of the process. The fact that the release was a mess, and the situation was sugar-coated and offered with a virtual cherry on top. We weren't to know that the cherry was off-date, and the sugar extremely thin.

I agree that there is more to life, but this forum is a vehicle for consumer issues (expressed openly), which is why there will be a lot of opposition and anger over the playablity of the game. It has improved considerably, and hopefully will continue to do so (despite the patches being rather reactionary, IMHO, in terms of certain graphical features) and I don't think there's anything healthy about dwelling on the issues and opinions of other users on the game. It's interesting to debate, but at the end of the day: one man's meat is another man's poison. People will always have different opinions on the game, and different experiences.
For instance, I believe that the minimum specs are aimed at showing the lowest-spec machine for which the game is able to run playably on at lowest settings. For some/(many?) with the lowest spec machine, this is impossible, as a large number have shown on these forums. Others may believe the specs are ridiculous to go by. As I say; different opinions, different experiences.

Have a nice friday

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

however there was a huge amount of speculation on the game, underpinned by gloriously extravagent (and largely wrong) statements from Oleg on what the game would be like on release.

You said it all in your first paragraph..

That is to say there is really no need to say anymore than to point out it was speculation..

Because as we all know speculation is not a promise to provide! As I pointed out before, there is nothing actually advertised on the box or at STEAM download that we did not receive!

But if anyone is planing on hanging thier hat on that argument in thier class action law suit, i.e. a law suit to get their $50 buck back based on some feature Oleg might have commented on in some blogg or forum over the past 6+ years of CoD development.

Would you be so kind as to record the audio from the court room as you say that to the judge?

In that is such a rare occasion that we get to see a judge LOL as he waves to the bailiff to remove someone from his court room

Better yet have one of your buddies in the room whip his phone out and record the video to upload to youtube.. Should be a hoot!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

You said it all in your first paragraph..

That is to say there is really no need to say anymore than to point out it was speculation..

Because as we all know speculation is not a promise to provide! As I pointed out before, there is nothing actually advertised on the box or at STEAM download that we did not receive!

But if anyone is planing on hanging thier hat on that argument in thier class action law suit, i.e. a law suit to get their $50 buck back based on some feature Oleg might have commented on in some blogg or forum over the past 6+ years of CoD development.

Would you be so kind as to record the audio from the court room as you say that to the judge?

In that is such a rare occasion that we get to see a judge LOL as he waves to the bailiff to remove someone from his court room

Better yet have one of your buddies in the room whip his phone out and record the video to upload to youtube.. Should be a hoot!

I will say again, as far as the box is concerned, DX-11 in the game? Not a chance. And that really is truthful. The game can suport it, you say? Why yes, perhaps it does, but box-art is aimed at people of all intellects: in short, it details what the game includes and what is playable on release. Not what could happen in the future, or be supported in the future. 128 player online? Yes, but on release, the game was too buggy for this to be supported. Has anyone chosen to run a lobby with such numbers? The game would be too laggy, videos on youtube detailing such numbers of A/C show this. I think ParaBellum posted one: an illuminating insight into what the game can support, but a clear sign that such numbers are not happily playable. I believe that the game could happily support this (one could create a lobby), but as I alluded to, the box art is there to detail what is pretty much accessible immediately, or with little difficulty (supposing you have the right system).

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I will say again,

No need!

You said it all when you pointed out that it was speculation

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

No need!

You said it all when you pointed out that it was speculation

OK, but that was in reference to a previous comment by myself (sorry, I should have clarified).

I will ask, can you provide proof of 128 players online working, or of DX-11 working in game? My CloD box tells me I can expect this.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I will ask, can you provide proof of 128 players online working, or of DX-11 working in game? My CloD box tells me I can expect this.

I have a better idea!

Your the one making the claimed it does not support it.. Right?

So how about you provide the proof that it doesn't support it?

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Oh you can bet he will!

On that note.. Is it just me.. Or does there seem to be more to it than some of these whinners are letting on? I mean really.. All this over $50 for a game? Most of these guys sound like they spend $1,000+ on a prom dress and Oleg never showed up to take them to the prom.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Ah I see we have a IL-2 cherry in our midst

What you going on about you fool?

Prom? prom dress?... If it bothers you that much go away, people can bitch, moan, kick up, stress as mush as they like regardless of cost..get yer head out yer a$$

Judging by your reply to my last post you obviously have no clue what your going on about do you 'Ace'?

Again..a lil clue, SOOOOO this game has the right to print what it likes on the back of its cover because it has a 'future proof engine'?

I think your find that every other vid game's 'recommended' spec's will allow the user to play the game on settings more than f-kin MED!

You go on about and bash the whiners here... Please dont insult mine and everyone elses intelligence by saying the game was fine on release but 'we' should of had better hardware to play it on!

P.S Im more than aware of IL2 and what it was like on its release..and Yes it happened then too but 'that' does not warrant it happening again or justify it..

f*k me, you actually sound like your saying there were no bugs, nothing wrong with the code, nothing wrong with the engine and it all comes down to hardware and that we should of known that 'recommended' means MED-HIGH end rigs can only play this game on LOW-MED settings

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[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

What you going on about you fool?

Prom? prom dress?... If it bothers you that much go away, people can bitch, moan, kick up, stress as mush as they like regardless of cost..get yer head out yer a$$

Judging by your reply to my last post you obviously have no clue what your going on about do you 'Ace'?

Again..a lil clue, SOOOOO this game has the right to print what it likes on the back of its cover because it has a 'future proof engine'?

I think your find that every other vid game's 'recommended' spec's will allow the user to play the game on settings more than f-kin MED!

You go on about and bash the whiners here... Please dont insult mine and everyone elses intelligence by saying the game was fine on release but 'we' should of had better hardware to play it on!

P.S Im more than aware of IL2 and what it was like on its release..and Yes it happened then too but 'that' does not warrant it happening again or justify it..

f*k me, you actually sound like your saying there were no bugs, nothing wrong with the code, nothing wrong with the engine and it all comes down to hardware and that we should of known that 'recommended' means MED-HIGH end rigs can only play this game on LOW-MED settings

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Yikes.. Looks like someone spilt some wine (or whine) on thier prom dress and can not return it for a refund