Of all the 'niggling' damge model issues, this one is my greatest irritation :(

JG52Krupi · #1 07-31-2011, 08:21 PM

Okay here you go I hope this will put the matter to rest.. I know it does not show system (Wires etc) only structural damage but I imagine it would be a lot of effort for something so little.

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Was that what you were looking for?

Mysticpuma · #2 07-31-2011, 08:38 PM

Well I was hoping for more of the example I made from your picture....but I guess having a little wrapping paper curl at the break is enough until they can get the next patch out?

Here's what I'd like to see from a good pounding of the wing (see attached)

Cheers and thanks for the duel, MP

JG52Krupi · #3 07-31-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Well I was hoping for more of the example I made from your picture....but I guess having a little wrapping paper curl at the break is enough until they can get the next patch out?

Here's what I'd like to see from a good pounding of the wing (see attached)

Cheers and thanks for the duel, MP

Duel

no problem..

I think one of the reason why you get the damage that you made on the spit is due to the structure as well... IIRC the spitfire covers were designed to bear load not just the spar and ribs this meant that the covers were thicker but for the huri the covers were not designed to bear load and therefore the cover would be very thin hence the breaks always occur around the ribs (At least that's what I think).

JG52Krupi · #4 08-01-2011, 12:55 AM

WHOO FOUND IT

furbs · #5 08-01-2011, 07:13 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhaaaaa Krupi, thats a different part of the wing!! yer yer...and i see damage and bits!!

Seriously though, the DM is one of the strong points of COD, and in this case i think Krupi is 90% right, i never knew that about the bolts on wing.

In a perfect world we would see a little more tearing and bits, but i can agree we would see a cleanish break.

And if the DM could be even more accurate it would only happen from damage to the wing and putting stress on the joints.

Any shooting of the joints "should" show damage around the joint area but maybe we cant have everything.

well done Krupi and good research.

JG52Krupi · #6 08-01-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by furbs

Ahhhhhhhhhaaaaa Krupi, thats a different part of the wing!! yer yer...and i see damage

Yeah its more comparable with the outer wing damage.. Would be nice to know what caused the damage.. Looks like a crash landing

SQB · #7 08-01-2011, 08:32 AM

So Krupi (I neither agree nor disagree as yet) does the wing spar not pass as one, continuous, metal rod/beam from the inside to outside..? Is it really cut into sections and then bolted? You would think hakwer would have noticed the potential for this to go wrong :s

robtek · #8 08-01-2011, 08:49 AM

For the ease of repairing / exchanging parts the wings were divided in parts.
The 109 wing is also fixed on 4 points, but directly at the wing root.
That was possible by attaching the main gear to the fuselage, resulting in a different can of worms.
Only the Spit, afaik, had the undivided main spar at this time.
There might be more planes with this attribute, but then i dont study wings, except through the ReVi.

JG52Krupi · #9 08-01-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek

For the ease of repairing / exchanging parts the wings were divided in parts.
The 109 wing is also fixed on 4 points, but directly at the wing root.
That was possible by attaching the main gear to the fuselage, resulting in a different can of worms.
Only the Spit, afaik, had the undivided main spar at this time.
There might be more planes with this attribute, but then i dont study wings, except through the ReVi.

I know the 190 has a one piece wing as well but not sure if it used an undivided spar?

furbs · #10 08-01-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek

For the ease of repairing / exchanging parts the wings were divided in parts.
The 109 wing is also fixed on 4 points, but directly at the wing root.
That was possible by attaching the main gear to the fuselage, resulting in a different can of worms.
Only the Spit, afaik, had the undivided main spar at this time.
There might be more planes with this attribute, but then i dont study wings, except through the ReVi.

AHHHH HAA thanks robtek!! so Krupi, lets look at the damage on the 109 again....

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...410_230401.jpg

Thats the damage we want to see along the hurricane edge, if the 109 shows it? why cant the hurri?

anyway, only joshing with ya again Krupi

but there it is mate.