Of all the 'niggling' damge model issues, this one is my greatest irritation :( - Page 7

furbs · #61 07-31-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

This is a game Furbs and there is a limitation to the visual damage.

Not on the other planes there isn't.

Now take some pills for your headache.

JG52Krupi · #62 07-31-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs

yes, but we both have seen the same amount of hurricane wing breaks due to stress in world war 2.

none.

Well... Actually.. Hang on... I... Okay you might have a point

Still MP is thinking that the damage shown is a cannon hit no.. its the resultant damage from overloading the wing, a physical weak point in the wings design.

retrojet · #63 07-31-2011, 06:42 PM

Oh dear...

I can tell we're stomping past 'niggling'

I have to say, the DMs are still impressive, but may always need tweaking...?
It's just hard to take sides concerning anything until we get our claws on a substantial patch/update... When that happens, all bets are off!

Mysticpuma · #64 07-31-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Well... Actually.. Hang on... I... Okay you might have a point

Still MP is thinking that the damage shown is a cannon hit no.. its the resultant damage from overloading the wing, a physical weak point in the wings design.

Okay Krupi, if I offer you an armistice on the wing break/overload point and then say, very well young man, go blow me up a wing of the aircraft that isn't at the stress point and show me the shattered metal edge and hanging debris (as can apparently be seen on other models) I shall then say "you win" the Hurricane doesn't just fall apart at exactly the same point every time, it can indeed have a a rough edge to the damage?

It just seems every time a piece of the wing falls off a Hurricane (the only aircraft I am considering at the moment in this conversation), it is always the same point. I have never seen a wing shredded and torn away, all seem to snap?

MP

JG52Krupi · #65 07-31-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Okay Krupi, if I offer you an armistice on the wing break/overload point and then say, very well young man, go blow me up a wing of the aircraft that isn't at the stress point and show me the shattered metal edge and hanging debris (as can apparently be seen on other models) I shall then say "you win" the Hurricane doesn't just fall apart at exactly the same point every time, it can indeed have a a rough edge to the damage?

It just seems every time a piece of the wing falls off a Hurricane (the only aircraft I am considering at the moment in this conversation, it is always the same point. I have never seen a wing shredded and torn away, all seem to snap?

MP

Okay will get a screenshot two secs.

JG52Krupi · #66 07-31-2011, 07:21 PM

Okay here you go I hope this will put the matter to rest.. I know it does not show system (Wires etc) only structural damage but I imagine it would be a lot of effort for something so little.

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Was that what you were looking for?

Mysticpuma · #67 07-31-2011, 07:38 PM

Well I was hoping for more of the example I made from your picture....but I guess having a little wrapping paper curl at the break is enough until they can get the next patch out?

Here's what I'd like to see from a good pounding of the wing (see attached)

Cheers and thanks for the duel, MP

palker4 · #68 07-31-2011, 07:42 PM

Guys Krupi has been right all along what he says that wing on hurri is not attached to a fuselage at root but the root is a part of the fuselage and the skin is not continuous becouse the wing is composed of 2 parts conecte only by four bolts when these bolts breaks the entire wing will fly of leaving perfectly straight edge just look at the pictures Krupi posted or this cutaway or a scale model if you have one

JG52Krupi · #69 07-31-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Well I was hoping for more of the example I made from your picture....but I guess having a little wrapping paper curl at the break is enough until they can get the next patch out?

Here's what I'd like to see from a good pounding of the wing (see attached)

Cheers and thanks for the duel, MP

Duel

no problem..

I think one of the reason why you get the damage that you made on the spit is due to the structure as well... IIRC the spitfire covers were designed to bear load not just the spar and ribs this meant that the covers were thicker but for the huri the covers were not designed to bear load and therefore the cover would be very thin hence the breaks always occur around the ribs (At least that's what I think).

furbs · #70 07-31-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by palker4

Guys Krupi has been right all along what he says that wing on hurri is not attached to a fuselage at root but the root is a part of the fuselage and the skin is not continuous becouse the wing is composed of 2 parts conecte only by four bolts when these bolts breaks the entire wing will fly of leaving perfectly straight edge just look at the pictures Krupi posted or this cutaway or a scale model if you have one

There must be wires and other stuff in the join though right?

and even if the wing broke due to stress, there would be SOME damage as the wing flew off?

whats the other half of the wing like Krupi?