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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-01-2011, 09:01 AM
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the only issue i have with steam is that you don't actually own anything you have on it... if the people that run steam want, they can cancel every single account on steam, and all the games everyone has are now gone, and because you accepted the agreement when you made your steam account, you can't do a thing about it...

where as if you have a physical copy of the game, one you can play without connecting to the internet at all, nobody can take it away from you without knocking on ur door, coming in, and taking it/smashing it, and then it would be illegal...

so personally, i'd only get a boxed version if i had the choice.
I would say used to be true - very few games now give you ownership, even physical copies. You pay for the right to access the information on the disk, and tbh there is alot worse and some very nasty DRM out there that comes on disks with games...

*But yeas I agree with you on ownership, luckily I have not heard of this happening on steam before although I may just not be aware.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:11 PM
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I've had steam problems, and believe me you do not want this "You're guilty until proven innocent" business attitude.
Offline play should be a simply 'key' enabled, whereas online play can have a semi-drm type authentification, no steam, as it tosses offline play as well.
It makes more sense for oleg to have his own steam type shop.

No steam for me.. I would like the box, thank you !!
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:05 AM
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Steam is fine. Too much tinfoilhat people.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:08 AM
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Box for me. I won't buy any game without a disc and box. A manual would be a necessity, but since they seem to be going the way of the Dodo bird I'll not hold it against 1C should they not make one as long as there is a good PDF.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:10 AM
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I want Oleg and his team to make killer bank off this sim. I'm hoping the boxed version will be some sort of special edition that is priced pretty high that includes a lot of extra goodies.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:17 AM
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If it's available on Steam and there is not another DRM attached to the game, I'll buy it from Steam. 1C:Maddox will earn much more money that way. (~200% more?) I might buy the DVD version (years) later, when it's in the bargain bin, so I have that real thing after all.

If the Steam version has another DRM, like GfWL, which demands attention too, I'll get the DVD version.

If SoW comes with Starforce or Yuplay, I'll not buy it.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:46 AM
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I am praying it get's released(on day 1) in the 1C-shop , http://1c.yuplay.com/ , so maddox games get's a bigger cut than even with steam. But it's unlikely a publisher would allow them to put it up there for the first few years at the least.
Still if they find a way to do their own digital distribution i will be sure to buy it there or otherwise whereever Oleg states he get's the biggest % per sale from.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:43 PM
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No steam for me.. I would like the box, thank you !!
+1 here.I want to see a hardcopy on my shelf.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:53 PM
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There are boxed versions available for Rise of Flight, for DCS Black Shark and even Flaming Cliffs 2 which is an addon to a sim from 2003. Other 1C titles like Theatre of War are also available as boxed versions. Just because Oleg says (IMHO correctly) that sooner or later niche titles like flight sims will be available through download only (as is already the case with most indie games) doesn't mean we're there yet.

Then again this forum and some special members in particular have always been eager to draw premature conclusions
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:58 PM
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You will probably see SOW available as a download as well as a boxed versison. I'd like to see the boxed version with extras go for atleast a hundred dollars. We pay way to little for good combat flight sims, its not worth the time and effort for new developers to get into this genre.
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