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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-04-2011, 05:05 AM
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I've had steam problems, and believe me you do not want this "You're guilty until proven innocent" business attitude.
Offline play should be a simply 'key' enabled, whereas online play can have a semi-drm type authentification, no steam, as it tosses offline play as well.
It makes more sense for oleg to have his own steam type shop.

No steam for me.. I would like the box, thank you !!
You obviously dont know about steam. You can play offline, you just need to authenticate the game then start steam in offline mode from then on...

Also in response to another persons comment - the youplay was the MAJOR killer for WOP on steam because it was additional DRM, and it barely functioned.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:28 AM
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You obviously dont know about steam. You can play offline, you just need to authenticate the game then start steam in offline mode from then on...
You obviously haven't experienced steam problems
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:30 AM
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You obviously dont know about steam. You can play offline, you just need to authenticate the game then start steam in offline mode from then on...
Try doing that when your net connection has already gone down...
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:06 PM
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Try doing that when your net connection has already gone down...
Its bloody frustrating that is Dano, your internet goes down and you cant play the games that you purchased.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:10 PM
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Its bloody frustrating that is Dano, your internet goes down and you cant play the games that you purchased.
That's why I didn't buy ROF at the time of release...and still to this day
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Buying downloads isn't the only area where problems can occur.

During one period several years ago I bought a large amount of FS add-ons from Just Flight. they were CD/DVDs shipped to my home address. I got bonus points (that gave discounts on future purchases) for every game I bought. I saved a lot of these bonuses: enough to buy several new games.

When I tried to cash-in the bonus points in they couldn't find my account details - I had changed computer and internet address, internet provider etc. since my purchases. I got nothing.

I can only imagine how much more troubling it would have been if I didn't even have the discs in my possession. At least I only lost my bonus points, and not games I'd already paid for!

I will never buy any game that I can't hold in my hand.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:00 PM
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Maybes its time for you old schoolers to actually upgrade to a 24/7 hour >working< broadband...
Its 2011 and developers couldn't care less, the future is digital distribution, deal with it.

And if it goes down its not the end of the world, why cry so much because you can't play your precious game for a
short while when the Internet is getting repaired or whatever it might be, just makes me sick the whole lack of patience.

RoF was and still is a great title, imo feel sorry for people boycotting it for such reasons(DRM etc).

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Old 01-04-2011, 01:12 PM
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Maybes its time for you old schoolers to actually upgrade to a 24/7 hour >working< broadband...
Its 2011 and developers couldn't care less, the future is digital distribution, deal with it.

And if it goes down its not the end of the world, why cry so much because you can't play your precious game for a
short while when the Internet is getting repaired or whatever it might be, just makes me sick the whole lack of patience.

RoF was and still is a great title, imo feel sorry for people boycotting it for such reasons(DRM etc).
You show me one Broadband provider who has had a 100% uptime record... other than that get a grip, nobody is crying, just pointing out the bad side of the whole online only method which when people have limited time to play their games becomes a ball ache if it happens to coincide with an outage.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:18 PM
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Maybes its time for you old schoolers to actually upgrade to a 24/7 hour >working< broadband...
Its 2011 and developers couldn't care less, the future is digital distribution, deal with it.

And if it goes down its not the end of the world, why cry so much because you can't play your precious game for a
short while when the Internet is getting repaired or whatever it might be, just makes me sick the whole lack of patience.

RoF was and still is a great title, imo feel sorry for people boycotting it for such reasons(DRM etc).
If you enjoy only "renting" a game good for you! As long as defect keys and other trash foul up downloaded games, or being forced to be online even when you wish to be offline, is a no go for me. That has nothing to do with old school at all but common sence, do you know what might be going on while you are playing your game? I have a feeling you are a bit old school yourself and are not up to date on some of the nasties people can pull off with out you even noticing it.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:16 PM
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Maybes its time for you old schoolers to actually upgrade to a 24/7 hour >working< broadband...
Its 2011 and developers couldn't care less, the future is digital distribution, deal with it.

And if it goes down its not the end of the world, why cry so much because you can't play your precious game for a
short while when the Internet is getting repaired or whatever it might be, just makes me sick the whole lack of patience.

RoF was and still is a great title, imo feel sorry for people boycotting it for such reasons(DRM etc).
Some people like to play games at the cottage, on the train, while crossing the Pacific on a 12 hour flight to Incheon, etc. There are reasons why people don't like having to constantly be online. Ubisoft had the big debacle with their servers going down, saves being lost, and other such things. Flight sims can sometimes take hours without time acceleration, and inflight-saves are not that common. I don't want to spend an hour or two flying to a destination, shooting down a personal best, and having my game crash to the menu and lose all my progress a minute before landing because my wireless router hiccupped or the net connection blinked.

I'm not saying that companies shouldn't try and protect their product, but if they went with a "have to be connected to play" DRM scheme then what's to stop players from getting screwed over if the company's decides they don't want to pay for the authentication server after a year because sales have slowed? People are still playing the game, but they're not giving the company any more money. Maybe the company might not even release a patch to allow offline play before they can the servers? Maybe they don't have a choice because they went out of business or got bought out and it's out of their hands.

Lots of stuff can happen, and sometimes being a physical copy Luddite pays off.

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