wich one? saitek x52 or x52pro

[swiss]

The sticky problem of the x52 can be solved.
Put some plastic compatible grease* between the spring dish and the base as well as on the rod of the spring dish.

*: I found Motorex bike grease 2000 to work very well, also most silicon greases should be ok also.
Never - Never use WD40, it's actually pure gasoline(90%).
You cant even use it to clean, as the 10% of oil it has in it will leave a thin oil layer which will make it impossible to reapply any grease on the cleaned item.
Isopropanol alcohol is the fluid of choice if you need to clean plastic parts.

[SEE]

I just downloaded Joystester 2 (thanks for the link BTW).

Bloody hell! My old analogue pot X45 is better than either the X52 or X52 Pro if obtaining ever increasing but tight circles is the benchmark. I just put my X45 up for sale on Ebay but me thinks I might sell one of the X52's .

The X52 Pro does have a better resolution than the X52 but both give diamond shapes. Modded X52 = No difference other than improved sensitivity from centre.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by SEE

I just downloaded Joystester 2 (thanks for the link BTW).

Bloody hell! My old analogue pot X45 is better than either the X52 or X52 Pro if obtaining ever increasing but tight circles is the benchmark. I just put my X45 up for sale on Ebay but me thinks I might sell one of the X52's .

The X52 Pro does have a better resolution than the X52 but both give diamond shapes. Modded X52 = No difference other than improved sensitivity from centre.

my modded x52 creates circles, not diamonds.

what did you do?

[SEE]

Originally Posted by swiss

my modded x52 creates circles, not diamonds.

what did you do?

I doubled the number of Magnets but fitted them over the existing ones. Sensitivity has improved and no deadzone. I modded mine long before I saw the vid posted in this thread.....

[swiss]

Originally Posted by SEE

I doubled the number of Magnets but fitted them over the existing ones. Sensitivity has improved and no deadzone. I modded mine long before I saw the vid posted in this thread.....

ok, kinda "special" mod then.

The base buttons are almost useless, as the "throttle" slider. Bad positioning.

The slider is quite useful for proppitch.

Base buttons and flips: Lock tailwheel, bomb-bay, start engine - basically stuff you dont use that often. Wouldn't miss them either...




One thing I dont get: Why do so many recommend the 16000 although it is not a Hotas?!

Now I'm waiting some cheap plastic flight sim pedals with HALL sensor!

Remember: You only get what you pay for - the x52 should be around $15, cost, without R&d and marketing.
So, cheap usually means it really IS xxxx.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by swiss

The slider is quite useful for proppitch.

Base buttons and flips: Lock tailwheel, bomb-bay, start engine - basically stuff you dont use that often. Wouldn't miss them either...

One thing I dont get: Why do so many recommend the 16000 although it is not a Hotas?!

As I said, the problem is the position. Using the slider to something really dynamic in IL-2, like Prop Pitch, is troublesome with the T16000M slider, and the buttons are really bad to map important controls, they are too near, irregular shape, etc. The keyboard is far better to that.

I, as "so many", recommended the T16000M as PART of a HOTAS solution (the "And Stick" one). People only think about a HOTAS that is sold as a package? Why not to buy a Joystick, a Throttle solution and Rudder pedals? If people stay stuck with closed packages, maybe lost a lot of opportunities.

I use in IL-2 one modded T16000M, a Saitek Throttle Quadrant and "improvised" Rudder Pedals, and can fly as good as an owner of a G940, X52Pro and any other expensive HOTAS solution, maybe even better - in terms of control input, not overall hability, of course... .

[Dano]

Originally Posted by SEE

I doubled the number of Magnets but fitted them over the existing ones. Sensitivity has improved and no deadzone. I modded mine long before I saw the vid posted in this thread.....

Was that basically just sticking extra magents on top of the current ones using their own attraction?

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Dano

Was that basically just sticking extra magents on top of the current ones using their own attraction?

My X52 suffered a slight lag in both X and Y axis only in one direction. I ended up placing one circular ceramic magnet on just one side of the hall effect for both axis and these are just slipped on using their own attraction. It also cured the 'off centre' problem. If I go into Il2 hardware input there still seems to be a slight 'dead zone' but checking the X -Y raw data using a third party utility indicates otherwise. I will try the 'slide by' mod shown earlier in this thread based on the results of the precision test posted as mine still produces a diamond shaped pattern.

[albx]

I ordered the X52 Pro. This is the best circle i can draw with my actual Thrustmaster Hotas X

In the mean time, can please somebody give me a good IL2 mapping for buttons? I don't want to use the profiler yet, just how who have the x52 mapped in the IL2 the commands...

Thank you very much
Alberto