Friday 2010-10-22 Dev. update and Discussion

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by JG53Harti

I would like see you on a DF-Server 50 enemies over you airfield and you must press button 1, button 2, move lever X ten times.... you will be dead and have to start again

Not all servers run missions where bases are only 10km apart and the only AA present is the one, which has been placed by mistake and mission creator has been too lazy to "fix" that.

[Azimech]

Agreed. Not every detail or system needs to be in the initial release, I loved it how IL2 growed with every patch. It gives the devs time and receive more detailed feedback from the community and a lot of questions that are asked now will be answered by the product itself when we play it.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ

Not all servers run missions where bases are only 10km apart and the only AA present is the one, which has been placed by mistake and mission creator has been too lazy to "fix" that.

98% would like quick action playing online. This isn't only in sim industry but also for any game. Doesn't matter is is shooter or even adventure game (different sort of action, but anyway they want it right after the start the game).

the other 2% asking some uniquie features that dislike most. Including starup procedure.

Will be fair till end: Startup procedure don't make money that we need for the continues of development. Instead it is eating money and resouces of development. There are many other things that are way more important for making successful on the market combat fligth sim.

I need to listen market, experinece for the last 20 years of my business and plan my team work that to do not overload them with the things that don't bring money in future comparing to the investments in such development. Just will repeat: complete check out and starup procedure - this is for third parties for some of aircraft... But I'm sure that for all content of the sim even third parties will be unable to make these things... or they will only do withourt adding of the new content...

Trust me. I know well what I talk.

And look please back to Il-2. Still no one sim has so many things modelled in one combat sim. One could maybe, repating the Il-2 itself with a bit better graphics engine... but it will be repeating, not the new things, like will bring the new series from us in future.

[Flanker35M]

S!

So the hopes of certain procedures are in the hands of 3rd party. Fully understandable and agreeable at this point of the SoW development and situation.

I just hope that we do NOT have this IL-2 style "no penalty at all" engine thing in higher realism settings. I could care less of the arcade settings, as long as realism can be adjusted then all is OK

The point I tried to make is that SoW will have a high fidelity modelling of damage, flight physics and systems. So will the SYSTEM modelling take in account the careless use of the engine for example? There was a reason why the engines needed to be warmed before take-off or keep the ground idle/taxi times short to avoid overheat.

So question is: If I start the engine with a button, do I have to wait for the oil and fuel pressure/temps to stabilize BEFORE I can slam the throttle to the firewall for take-off OR can I just press "start engine" and slam the throttle to the stopper WITHOUT ANY penalty as in IL-2?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

So the hopes of certain procedures are in the hands of 3rd party. Fully understandable and agreeable at this point of the SoW development and situation.

I just hope that we do NOT have this IL-2 style "no penalty at all" engine thing in higher realism settings. I could care less of the arcade settings, as long as realism can be adjusted then all is OK

The point I tried to make is that SoW will have a high fidelity modelling of damage, flight physics and systems. So will the SYSTEM modelling take in account the careless use of the engine for example? There was a reason why the engines needed to be warmed before take-off or keep the ground idle/taxi times short to avoid overheat.

So question is: If I start the engine with a button, do I have to wait for the oil and fuel pressure/temps to stabilize BEFORE I can slam the throttle to the firewall for take-off OR can I just press "start engine" and slam the throttle to the stopper WITHOUT ANY penalty as in IL-2?

No penalty at all just with simple settings without CEM (Complex engine managment)

[Flanker35M]

S!

Thank you Low realism = no penalty. High realism = penalty. I am a happy and can't wait for SoW to be in stores!

[furbs]

Oleg...i was looking through a old video of a early build of SOW(IL2 engine?)..and took a few screens, i know the new SOW will be much more detailed in res and textures, but when i was asking before about colours of fields of england these shots are to me very very good and look like very much like England that i know, showing the green and hedgrows, again, im just talking about colours.


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By furbs9999 at 2010-10-25

Will the final colours of SOW look more like this?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by furbs

Oleg...i was looking through a old video of a early build of SOW(IL2 engine?)..and took a few screens, i know the new SOW will be much more detailed in res and textures, but when i was asking before about colours of fields of england these shots are to me very very good and look like very much like England that i know, showing the green and hedgrows, again, im just talking about colours.


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By furbs9999 at 2010-10-25

Will the final colours of SOW look more like this?

Yes it was using a bit modified Il-2 engine but with new 3D models.
Don't worry. will looks close to this and lighting will be way better.
And these textures above was my photos of some part when I was flying over England (but with not enough for use directly resolution and amount of them).

[furbs]

Thanks for the reply Oleg, yep the colours are very good and cant wait to see the final SOW version.

[NLS61]

Oleg,
If you want a very good source for various airplanes have a look at http://www.hph.cz/index.php?option=c...id=102&lang=cs
The owner of this company has quality written all over him and is known to not do things that are not authentic.
I've visited their factory lately and was very impressed with how they do things.
Maybe you want to contact them.

Niels