Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[holdenbj]

Oleg,

Thanks again for another great update. Amazed you found time to do with an office move.

Are those first set of screen shots over the Isle of Wight , south coast of UK? The southern point cliffs are a little too severe, other than that the topology/terrain is just perfect. Needs the light houses are St Catherine's and the Needles too

[Tone71]

Originally Posted by holdenbj

Are those first set of screen shots over the Isle of Wight , south coast of UK? The southern point cliffs are a little too severe, other than that the topology/terrain is just perfect. Needs the light houses are St Catherine's and the Needles too

All things considered, I don't think it looks too bad:



Sorry for the small pic, best I could find! This is St.Catherine's on the Isle of Wight; you can just make out how steep it really is and the 'double step' up from the sea.

[Romanator21]

For starters, cliffs erode, and sometimes rather quickly. Today's landscape isn't going to match 1940's landscape 100%.

3rd set, shot 2 and 5. It's faintly clear here

Allow me to respectfully disagree with you here and say that there is nothing out of the ordinary with these clouds, and in fact they are quite realistic as I see these types quite often. I have also flown very close to clouds (but not in them as I'm not IFR certified). Theses are already rather flat in appearance, but you shouldn't expect to see table-tops except for under certain conditions.

And others have a double standard. The Hurricane pilot size is not to be mentioned ‘on peril of death’, but the leaf colour, tree trunk sizes, road widths, tracer appearance, colour of the tires (just kidding) and who knows what other details, are ok to criticize…??

Tracer color, leaf color, etc are subjective based on our experiences and monitor calibrations. Pilot size is scaled in the 3D engine along with every other object. It's impossible to make a pilot which is shorter than you scale it to be. If it's 175cm, it's 175cm, no speculation necessary.

[bf-110]

B.R.20...Magnifico!!!!

[He111]

Excellent work! but did i see an italian fighter attacking a wimpy from behind?? .. not the best tactics, maybe an inexperienced pilot?

My $100 is burning a hole in my pocket!

He 111.

[Chivas]

The Terrain and Clouds are looking really good in todays screenshots. I'm ecstatic that the developers didn't go the route of some IL-2 map modders who went with satellite photographs to develop their terrain. Satellite photo realistic terrain looks decent at high altitude, but its total crap when flying at lower altitudes.. SOW terrain can be steadily improved upon in future updates, while satellite terrain will always look like crap.

[major_setback]

Nicest clouds we've seen yet!

[Jimko]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Tracer color, leaf color, etc are subjective based on our experiences and monitor calibrations. Pilot size is scaled in the 3D engine along with every other object. It's impossible to make a pilot which is shorter than you scale it to be. If it's 175cm, it's 175cm, no speculation necessary.

Ahh..and so you are saying that road width, tree trunk size, and all other sizes are not scaled like the pilot size or in your words "every other object"?

Strangely, some others noticed a discrepency as well, when it came to pilot size...

Nevertheless, all opinions and observations should be accepted without malice which was more to the point of my post.

Cheers!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Allow me to respectfully disagree with you here and say that there is nothing out of the ordinary with these clouds, and in fact they are quite realistic as I see these types quite often. I have also flown very close to clouds (but not in them as I'm not IFR certified). Theses are already rather flat in appearance, but you shouldn't expect to see table-tops except for under certain conditions.

My post above answers this quite well. They may look good to you, but please, post a photo of clouds that look exactly like this (over England). Then I may begin to believe that these look realistic.
It's just like the smoke issue. When I first said the smoke didn't look good, people started saying I was wrong. I was called a moaner, and a whiner and I think you were one of the people you said that to me, Romanator. Then Luthier and Oleg replied by saying they hated the smoke more than the minority who had truthfully expressed their opinions. So here we had it; I was right in this instance.
Until Oleg replies, you can be as fan-boiish as you want, but it won't change the fact that Oleg and Luthier have proved you wrong in the past. That's why my original post was in good taste. It just got blown way out of proportion.

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by Tone71

All things considered, I don't think it looks too bad:



Sorry for the small pic, best I could find! This is St.Catherine's on the Isle of Wight; you can just make out how steep it really is and the 'double step' up from the sea.

A floral study (I know, just starting to talk about tree again )

The Undercliff and the surrounding countryside;

Then and ...















... Now.





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