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Old 06-20-2010, 06:43 PM
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Hi dfrog. I hope you don't mind me cherry-picking some issues.



I have been thinking about adding a few more relevant nations, anyway, but so far other projects have taken over my time.

Bulgaria - What for? The country's armed forces did not take part in the war against the USSR and we have no maps depicting their home defense.
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Croatia (axis) - Same as Bulgaria. What for? There were two squadrons flying under german control (15.(kroat)/JG 52 and 15.(kroat)/KG 2) which could be added but lacking a map and looking at the native croatian effort it's hardly a relevant nation to be added.

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Additionally an Allied Romania (post August 1944) and South Africa would make sense to be added as new nations.

If you don't mind, I would like to give an opinion on your comment. Just to note, I've shortened the quote just to be more precise and focus on the thing's I'll elaborate on. To be honest, it's entirely valid.

There has been no Balkans map and, as far as I know, there currently aren't plans for any. Which is a shame. It's a theater of war that's been heavily overlooked. While Bulgaria did not take part in the invasion of the USSR (pleasantly surprised you're aware of that fact, as most Westerns don't seem to be) the home defense campaign against the 15th USAAF was a large enough affair that involved thousands of planes over the course of an entire year. Plus, the VnVV (Bulgarian His Majesty's Air Forces) were involved in other operations too - anti-partisan, escorting Axis convoys and protecting the Bulgarian coast against Soviet submarines and surface ships and reccon flights over the White/Aegean Sea and Medditerrenean.

Lastly, while I don't know if it'll be a great incentive, but Il-2 does have a strong fanbase here (I'm a Bulgarian national) and many people are still hoping that there would be at least some sort of representation of the theater and our air force - I'm still keeping fingers crossed for a TD Balkans map....

One that would also be very welcomed by Romanians, I'm sure - after all, the main target of the 15th AF in the Balkans wasn't Sofia, or even Bucharest, but the Ploesti oil refineries.

The above is valid about Croatia; but not only there's enough historic potential for campaigns, but I believe there's a fantastic modded map at an advanced stage of completion.


Don't take this as intended to be offensive in any way, I greatly respect your work and I'm looking forward to the patches. But I'd like to point out that branching out, expanding etc. the sim would not be in any way pointless, or much less degrading, to the contrary.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:06 AM
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If you don't mind, I would like to give an opinion on your comment. Just to note, I've shortened the quote just to be more precise and focus on the thing's I'll elaborate on. To be honest, it's entirely valid.
Of course I don't mind. Message Boards are there to have a conversation or discussion, after all.

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There has been no Balkans map and, as far as I know, there currently aren't plans for any. Which is a shame. It's a theater of war that's been heavily overlooked. While Bulgaria did not take part in the invasion of the USSR (pleasantly surprised you're aware of that fact, as most Westerns don't seem to be) the home defense campaign against the 15th USAAF was a large enough affair that involved thousands of planes over the course of an entire year. Plus, the VnVV (Bulgarian His Majesty's Air Forces) were involved in other operations too - anti-partisan, escorting Axis convoys and protecting the Bulgarian coast against Soviet submarines and surface ships and reccon flights over the White/Aegean Sea and Medditerrenean.

Lastly, while I don't know if it'll be a great incentive, but Il-2 does have a strong fanbase here (I'm a Bulgarian national) and many people are still hoping that there would be at least some sort of representation of the theater and our air force - I'm still keeping fingers crossed for a TD Balkans map....
If there were such a map in the making then it might make sense, but ATM we do have one aircraft type used by the Bulgarian Air Force (the Bf 109) for home defense plus the Ar-196 as AI. Not much WRT the aircraft pool, although it might be sufficient ... if there were a map.
I am a strict believer in historical accuracy and relevance ... and in a cohesive depiction of the operations. Which means to me there has to be a balance between the pure aircraft pool, the map, sea and ground objects and other "negligible details" such as the right units, awards and the right speech pack. Then, and only then, any kind of player can utilize the things available in every way he wishes - they can be connected in a historical campaign, in a single mission, in a simple DF map, in a Coop ... Simply adding individual and unconnected aspects simply pleases the loud minority of DF players, most of which prefer the "sportive" DF with little regard to historical accuracy, but do not provide a solid playground for historically-minded offline players (like myself).

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One that would also be very welcomed by Romanians, I'm sure - after all, the main target of the 15th AF in the Balkans wasn't Sofia, or even Bucharest, but the Ploesti oil refineries.
A sensible map for such ops would have to include a most of Romania, a good deal of Yugoslavia and parts of Greece, too. If we were to limit the potential to campaigns of the ARR, that is. If you want to include the USAAF then the map has to have bases available in North Africa and I am quite sure that such dimensions would overwhelm the Il-2 engine. Not to mention that there's a ban on any realistic maps of the MTO in place.

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The above is valid about Croatia; but not only there's enough historic potential for campaigns, but I believe there's a fantastic modded map at an advanced stage of completion.
A croatian campaign featuring 15.(kroat)/JG 52 would be a lot more sensible since they did take part in the ops in the Caucasus in 1942/43. Flying CAS for partizan hunters in Yugoslavia isn't exactly the most thrilling of mission concepts, not to mention that Il-2 doesn't really have the means to depict them (no infantry as targets, no ability to count buildings etc as targets ...).

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Old 06-21-2010, 07:47 AM
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Thanks for the answer, csThor!

By the way, I did foret to mention the whole "Patriotic War" against the Axis powers, after the Soviet invasion and coup in September 1944, so there's a pretty good "Il-2" plane set used by the VnVV - Ju-87B/D , FW-189, Letov S-328, Avia B.534, Avia B.71 (licensed built SB-4), Fi-156 Storch, Ju-52 ...

And that's only from the official "Il-2" planes, of course.

As Blackdog_kt said, there's a lot of historical content in the region...

OK, stopping bothering you now!
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:45 PM
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Hi TD

Something, that is worth to improve (now, that the hardware of the simmers is stronger than in 2001):

Targets should burn longer (maybe half an hour instead of only a minute?). It would be a huge step forward if target areas look bombed after an attack.

And maybe some additional smoke around the burning targets?

At the moment you have to look twice to find out if the chosen target ist still alive or not.

Please, Daidalos look at this point (also regarding immersion and for moviemakers it would be a great step forward).

Thanks for your effort. You're doing a grat job.

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Old 06-24-2010, 05:38 PM
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As he mentioned about effects,I would like to ask if some effects can be improved,altought I dunno if TD can change them.
One thing are the ships.I saw a video of,you know,that thing,and on it,the ships when got bombed,burned and were releasing a black and thick smoke.
Another interesting thing was that the fire from the planes looked more realistic.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:56 AM
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Dear Team Daidalus i request a special army for pacific teatre.....

Who is this?


yes Japanese Sensuikan Toku, aircraft-carrier sub. whit catapult sistem.
loock this....


real information.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400_class_submarine
tankyou Daidalus team.loock this japanese airplane whit actenction is Fac-Simile to REGGIANE 2005 yes remember ITALY and GERMAN project esport in Japan during ww2.

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Old 06-25-2010, 12:09 PM
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@ Xilon. A long time ago I saw on National Geographic a documentary about the I-400, that sub. The Japanese wanted to bomb LA, San Fransisco and other cities with "bio-bombs". The Japanese tested some bio-weapons in China in the 1930's. The Japanese thought that conventional weapons wouldn't work because they looked at the BoB and Britain didn't surrender, so they thought that bio-weapons would have more effect, but the project was very expensive and the allies were winning the war already.
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