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Old 05-21-2010, 04:41 AM
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The CW-21 stands for Curtis Wright US aircraft manufacturer.

There are so many aircraft now for IL2 I am amazed when people keep asking for more.

No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either. The IL2 is an air combat simulation genre, which means everything is about combat and mostly aircraft vs aircraft. In other words, if you fly all the weird stuff people are always asking for... you would be asking to just get shot down all the time.

If we could get an honest poll for online or offline aircraft; the same aircraft choices would probably prevail across the board for most everyone... especially if they want to survive in the missions.

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Old 05-21-2010, 04:54 AM
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No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either
I'd have to disagree, Nearmiss. A section of the online community is content endlessly reenacting the same dogfights, but other IL-2 gamers like to explore new aircraft, new maps, new weapon systems and the rest. All credit to TD for feeding our addictions...
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:03 AM
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Sprain

The CW-21 is not a Daidalos in-house development but was a 3rd Party Project that just missed the deadline for the Pacific Fighters release and then fell through the floor. DT simply picked up the pieces and finished it as we were given the model. Nothing sinister about that.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:11 AM
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I'd have to disagree, Nearmiss. A section of the online community is content endlessly reenacting the same dogfights, but other IL-2 gamers like to explore new aircraft, new maps, new weapon systems and the rest. All credit to TD for feeding our addictions...
Since I don't fly coops I don't see much of that.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:30 AM
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csThor, thanks for that - as good a response to Sprain's silliness as we could reasonably expect.

Nearmiss - I think the IL-2 online dogfight community probably underestimate how many people enjoy IL-2 in other ways. They tend to be the most vocal, and the most partisan, but they are very much a minority. The continuing sales of IL-2, and the interest of newcomers on the various forums, seem to indicate that there is still a broad base of interest, and relatively few of the noobs will ever fly online - it is actualy a rather hostile environment for the inexperienced.

As for not flying coops, why not? Even if you don't want to make a serious commitment, dropping in on the Ubizoo Saturday coop once or twice might broaden your horizons - we do this for fun, remember.
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:22 AM
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Personally I fly IL2 purely for the chance to fly Co-ops and I despair of the kiddies who get a kick out of fly-die-fly-die arenas. I would rather fly one 90 minute co-op and park up on the apron at the end alive than fly 9 ten minute deathmatch missions.

As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it but when you are flying a Co-op re-enactment of the attack on Taranto then doing it in a low slow outdated biplane just adds to the experience.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:17 AM
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Personally I fly IL2 purely for the chance to fly Co-ops and I despair of the kiddies who get a kick out of fly-die-fly-die arenas. I would rather fly one 90 minute co-op and park up on the apron at the end alive than fly 9 ten minute deathmatch missions.

As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it but when you are flying a Co-op re-enactment of the attack on Taranto then doing it in a low slow outdated biplane just adds to the experience.
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I have to admit that I am pretty much done with flying on dogfight servers. This game has always been a simulation for me - so I like to simulate flying, and surviving, a sortie.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:14 AM
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As for flying outmoded aircraft; I can see that trying to sink the Tirpitz with a Swordfish is suicidal in a dogfight server that has 10 FW190s hovering over it...
Think to those Swordfish pilots who attacked the Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen during the Channel Dash, all shot down by FW190s... the leading pilot got a Victoria Cross for the action (posthumous)

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Old 05-21-2010, 11:05 AM
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it all depends on the missionbuilder, dogfight and coop, if such "crap" planes are usefull or not.
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Old 05-21-2010, 01:11 PM
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Keep up the great work.. just get it done!!

I am looking forward to the integrated Zuti with triggers..

This is the only sim that I know of with great FMs, an incredible planeset spanning almost 3 decades.. and graphics that are just stellar.. even if they are getting long in the tooth... This sim is the standard by which all others will be measured for some time... and SoW will do the same.
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