If we had a pilot model in the interior cockpit view, think of the possibilities...

[ChrisDNT]

Frankly, between nobody in the cockpit and a guy with his hands visible in MY cockpit, I still prefer the "Casper" option.

Please, Lock-On option, only legs.

[Drum_tastic]

hasn't this already been said to be not in the sim, by Oleg and crew? So why are people still harping on about it?

Frankly that pilot in blackshark looks pants. I would hate to see that in the game. It is just too unrealistic.

Now, some want it and some don't and it doesn't seem to be on the road map as far as the developers are concearned.

So, it seems to me the people who want it will have to wait until it can be developed by a third party or Oleg thinks it's time. Simples!

There are many more important aspects of the game to me, FM, damage model, sounds terrain, career mode, the list goes on and I want to be able to see all those beautiful new instruments un-hindered by a pair of sausage legs and arms

[Skoshi Tiger]

From a Movie making point of view (as I think this was the original intent of the thread. could be wrong though! ), what would be more important for the film makers. A 1st person view of the pilots hands legs etc, or a movable 3rd person view so they can compose shots?
(looking over their shoulder, closeups of faces etc)

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Drum_tastic

hasn't this already been said to be not in the sim, by Oleg and crew? So why are people still harping on about it?

Frankly that pilot in blackshark looks pants. I would hate to see that in the game. It is just too unrealistic.

Now, some want it and some don't and it doesn't seem to be on the road map as far as the developers are concearned.

So, it seems to me the people who want it will have to wait until it can be developed by a third party or Oleg thinks it's time. Simples!

There are many more important aspects of the game to me, FM, damage model, sounds terrain, career mode, the list goes on and I want to be able to see all those beautiful new instruments un-hindered by a pair of sausage legs and arms

Yes

[ElAurens]

Totally selfish answer here, as frankly I don't want an animated goofy looking mannequin in the way of seeing things in the cockpit.

I'd much rather the time was spent on more flyable aircraft or other combat related features. You know, the things we actually play the sim for.

If you want a doll in the cockpit go buy a Barbie and put it on your desk.

[proton45]

If done right, it could be an ok feature...but, at this time its not on the top of my wish list. Sorry....

[zaelu]

You keep imagining is so much complicated to have the pilot body animated for those... 6 flyables.

Maybe a guy who knows a bit about 3D working would tell us how much time is it taking to link the hands (2, TWO) and the legs (yep, two also) to the Stick-throttle and respectively, rudder pedals so they will move in sync with the already animated stick,throttle and pedals. Or you don't wish for them to be animated either? I thought so... This done with a modern 3D application and not 3d max 1.0.

But rest assure... if Oleg lets this opened for moding will be aout from moding garages in short time.

As for the Barbie doll from the post above... that sarcasm is just hiding the misunderstanding of the issue.

[ElAurens]

A. It's not sarcasm.

B. I perfectly understand what you want.

C. It's not an "issue", it's a request for useless eye candy that in no way will enhance immersion. In fact it will detract from it. Flying in the third person perspective? Not a good idea.

[zaelu]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

A. It's not sarcasm.

B. I perfectly understand what you want.

C. It's not an "issue", it's a request for useless eye candy that in no way will enhance immersion. In fact it will detract from it. Flying in the third person perspective? Not a good idea.

How do you understand "perfectly" if you name this "flying in 3rd person"? is about own virtual body awarenes... in first person... you dont see your head... you see the rest of your body. you are in that head as in first person.

example 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_0fnl26Z5c

Well I know about 3D and you wont get the pilot. It not possible in the SoW BoB cockpits, or at a huge price of work only - very huge. I think the whole discussion is a loss of time.

OK... let's hear a different opinion. Are you working on SoW?

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by zaelu

You keep imagining is so much complicated to have the pilot body animated for those... 6 flyables.

Maybe a guy who knows a bit about 3D working would tell us how much time is it taking to link the hands (2, TWO) and the legs (yep, two also) to the Stick-throttle and respectively, rudder pedals so they will move in sync with the already animated stick,throttle and pedals. Or you don't wish for them to be animated either? I thought so... This done with a modern 3D application and not 3d max 1.0.

But rest assure... if Oleg lets this opened for moding will be aout from moding garages in short time.

As for the Barbie doll from the post above... that sarcasm is just hiding the misunderstanding of the issue.

Well I know about 3D and you wont get the pilot. It not possible in the SoW BoB cockpits, or at a huge price of work only - very huge. I think the whole discussion is a loss of time.