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Old 10-15-2009, 05:50 PM
ivagiglie ivagiglie is offline
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Hi guys, didn't look on this thread for some time (well, since 4.09 is out), today I've done the full read and found JVM's proposal on the trimming.
I want to say that we seem all crazy about IL2 on this forum... well, do yourself a favor and build a trimming box!!!
It took me 25 euro to build this (it's the black/gray box below the saitek throttle quadrant):

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...glie/trim1.jpg

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/v...glie/trim2.jpg

Recipe:
- take the cheapest 3-axis joystick you can find (~10 euro at the local shop)
- buy some quality trimmers and knobs, a few switches plus a metal box (~15 euro on the internet including shipping)
- open the joy, take the electronics out, replace the trimmers, replace the switches, drill the necessary number of holes in the box(!), fix the trimmers/switches through the holes and close the box
- enjoy a completely new realism!

Sorry for the offtopic, but having a trim wheel is orders of magnitude better than what you can currently do with a keyboard and you don't need an expensive joy for that... giving how much time we spend on our preferred sim I think it's really worth doing it.


More on topic: I do love long flying with compass and stopwatch on bombers too, sooo rewarding when you actually manage to get *there*!
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Lucas_From_Hell Lucas_From_Hell is offline
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Sorry if I was a little bit harsh or something. I didn't generalized or anything. Let's say, English is not my native language (I know, not a good excuse, but I'll stick to it), so sometime my posts might look too crazy, stupid, insane (and redundant, as you can see). But, regarding to my last post, as did Jack, The Ripper, let's go by parts (don't know how to translate this joke, but still )

But, before I start, I just want you to pay attention that I didn't say ALL of these or anything that radical.

"Focke-Wulf 189; 864 build; in game" - Maybe this one could be made flyable. I don't think many would fly it, but it's for sure an interesting bird. Recce is a nice challange.

"Focke-Wulf 200 'Condor'; 263 build; in game" - I think it's the only 4-engine boiler I actually think I would fly. But only because of the plane itself. I can't imagine myself (or anyone) doing any sort of mission on it. Patrolling the sea for hours, usually to find nothing, or to drop some bombs and go back? It's not worth the effort.

"Dornier 17; 2055 build; missed by many, many people" including myself. But, as I stated at the end, I think this one should be left for Storm of War instead. It wouldn't be very wise to have 2 competent teams spending their times on the same aircraft, right?

"Heinkel 177; 1140 build;" I don't see that "many, many" people asking for it. Plus, it was a troubled aircraft since the begining. And, as I said, did little.

"Heinkel 115; 223 build;" Maybe would be nice to have this, but the role it was used for isn't really good when it comes to time - same thing as the Condor. And plus, as it did way more stuff agains early-war British aircraft, it should be left to Storm of War, probably.

"Arado 196; 541 build; in game" It would be interesting, althought boring in some ways, to fly this one too. But I'm not too sure if many would use it. I would. Not as often as my trusty Spit or so, but would.

"ME410; 1189 build; almost in game (Me 210)" Interesting one, nice A/C. Maybe could be included.

"Lancaster; 7377 build; missed by the brits
Halifax; 6176 build; missed by the brits
Wellington; 11461 build; missed by many, many people
B17; 12731 build; in game
B29; 3970 build; in game"

Well, Martin already pointed out what's up with these, right?

I'm not very in this legal problem between IL-2 developers and some American A/C factories, so some I'll suggest might be impossible to include.

Planes that, in my opinion, could be included and are missed by far more people: the Marauder, the Typhoon (Eurofighter? ) and the Ju-88 variants (specially the ground-attack ones).

These, I think, did way more for the campaigns they participated, and, honestly, deserve a better position on the priorities list.

I hope I didn't caused any misunderstanding here. I hate the discussions that go around here, and, personally, I don't think a clash of opinions is enought to start one. Plus, this was supposed to be a happy enviroment where the community could gather up and talk, not as enemies but friends, right ?

EDIT: Nice solution for the trimming! But, I have to ask, I'm the only one that likes the trimming as a hat on the stick, so you can access it with your thumb and trim it quicker? (Maybe I'm spending too much time on Lock On...)

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