Game Update... Great!

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

In title update (for PS3 only though) there will be deadzone customization.

What about the rudder for ps3 AV8R

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by trk29

What about the rudder for ps3 AV8R

Cause it can be customized, it can be customize.
Have I answered?

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Cause it can be customized, it can be customize.
Have I answered?

No there is no little movement when you make a little twist of the stick the rudder moves all the way, there is no fine adjustment like it is for the XBox the rudder handles differently for both consoles. It is digital and not analog. When trying to add a little rudder it violently jerks one way or another. You and devs may not even be aware of this issue.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by trk29

No there is no little movement when you make a little twist of the stick the rudder moves all the way, there is no fine adjustment like it is for the XBox the rudder handles differently for both consoles. It is digital and not analog. When trying to add a little rudder it violently jerks one way or another. You and devs may not even be aware of this issue.

It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

Oh well thanks for clarifying.

So even pc sticks that have the twist feature for the ps3 are going to be like this?

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Yes, now.
Rudder of Avitor is digital on PS3 (not on 360).
Blame Saitek, not us.

Maybe you could send them a note to have that changed and make them the same? And let them know their sticks are not correct between consoles?

[mdbuehler]

Awesome, thanks Anton! Good to finally know about the dead zone reason on 360 too. Microsoft is weird sometimes about the most random things! Really enjoying the game!!

[trk29]

I have sent Saitek a email with my concerns I hope everybody with a ps3 and AV8R 03 will do the same. Here is what I sent them

Hello,
As a forum moderator and owner of IL-2 Sturmovik Birds of Prey, we as ps3 gamers have just found out of a problem with the AV8R 03 for the Playstation 3.
The twist in the stick for rudder is digital whereas the twist of the stick on the AV8R 02 XBox is analog.
What does this mean? When you apply rudder on the AV8R 03 it is either all the way or centered. So there is no fine adjustment when trying to shoot the opponent.
I have talked to the CEO of Gaijin Anton Yudintsev and he said there is nothing he can do. But I feel you could make a change to your stick because every PS3 user on the forum is aggravated that this button is digital and not analog. Since most people have been saying that they are going to be buying the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas instead of this stick. And now we have another option of using pc flight sticks instead of either one of these.
I own this stick and can confirm the twist is not correct. I think if you really want to sell this stick you should make this change. I thank you for your time in reading this. Have a good day.

Tim

[Raw Kryptonite]

Originally Posted by trk29

Maybe you could send them a note to have that changed and make them the same? And let them know their sticks are not correct between consoles?

I think they just need to create a quality flight stick for use on the consoles. I'm not happy with the build quality, layout and general feel of the Aviator. Force feedback would be nice, especially in a pre-fly-by-wire flight game.

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

Anton, I received a e-mail back from Saitek and this is what they said

Hi Tim,

I forwarded this to one of the product managers directly from Saitek, and this was their response:

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The twist is digital in Mode 1, but it's analog in Mode 2. This is because there's no set specification for stick layouts on PS3, whereas there is on Xbox 360; therefore what we had to do was configure the stick so that it matched the control layout for the major games available at the time - these were Tom Clancy's HAWX and Blazing Angels.

If the customer switches to Mode 2 then they will find that they'll get an analog response, as well as the fact that the buttons will then all be correctly assigned!

If they're in any doubt that the twist is analog in this mode then they simply need to connect it to a Windows PC and test it in Game Controllers where they will see that there is an analog response in Mode 2.

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Hope this helps.

Regards,

Angelo Ables

Customer Support Tech.
Mad Catz Interactive Inc.
1-800-659-2287
techsupport@madcatz.com

Does this mean that the rudder will work correctly in mode 2, and will all the buttons be right?

[Ju-87]

I don't think so, at least not if you're planning to play it on the PS3..

It's not so simple as the joysticks come with 2 modes for a reason. Now, I don't own the PS3 av8r but I very much suspect it works the same way as the xbox360 one. In "console" setting, they joystick tries to mimic the gamepad, something that does not transition well if you try to use it on a PC (or try to use the PC setting on a console).