TBF Avenger and other planes

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by sniperton

The question is not whether Paul is able to make such an addition. He is, provided you can offer him a job. The question is whether Il2 can handle a player swapping sides.

Sure hope it can be made to do just that. There is so much opportunity in betrayal - even the historical ones. Also players could make their own choices, and according to that the story continues.

Thinking a little further a really capable mission generator could use players results to generate different missions. And even good very old Wing Commander offered that - though its different for an all scripted missions game.

[ElAurens]

Za Tzarista.zip

I have put the mission files for my Za Tzarista! mission in a zip file. I hope this attachment works.

Just put the folders in Missions>Net>Dogfight and it should work. Not sure it will work without HSFX but give it a shot.

Apologies to the really good mission builders out there, but it's something that I can whip up without too much bother.

[Fighterace]

So what's happened to all the modeled planes and etc that were not added to this game?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

So what's happened to all the modeled planes and etc that were not added to this game?

Which ones are you referring?

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Which ones are you referring?

I mean the TBF Cockpit and P-61s

[ElAurens]

We cannot have those because they fall under the "agreement" with Northrop-Grumman that limits flyables to what came in the stock PF.

The model I wonder about the most is the IJN battleship Haruna. Shots of it in 3d Max were posted years ago, and it never came to fruition.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

We cannot have those because they fall under the "agreement" with Northrop-Grumman that limits flyables to what came in the stock PF.

Basically:

If it was military hardware made or upgraded by any company that NG ever owned and it's currently in the game, it can't be improved or altered. That means no changes to the F4F, FM2, F6F, or TBF, or most existing US ships.

If it was military hardware made or upgraded by any company that NG ever owned and its not in the game, it can't be added. That means no new US ships (with a very few exceptions), no Ryan FR Fireball, no P-61, no F3F, XF5F, XP-50, F7F, F8F, F9F, or J2F.

Originally Posted by ElAurens

The model I wonder about the most is the IJN battleship Haruna. Shots of it in 3d Max were posted years ago, and it never came to fruition.

Plenty of cool aircraft and ships were developed for PF, but fell by the wayside for various reasons. SB2C, P-47H, Ki-44, etc.

Modders, being modders, abandon projects for all sorts of reasons, from death (IL-4) and earthquake (Boomerang) to burnout to lack of interest.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

So what's happened to all the modeled planes and etc that were not added to this game?

To begin with, it’s third party’s choice to submit a plane or ground object for inclusion in official patches. Then, TD has the responsibility of the final decision, according to quality and technical standards. As far as I know, of course.
Also consider that no new Northrop Grumman types can be added, for legal reasons.

[sniperton]

#26 here

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...,45665.24.html

gives you an idea how complex it is to import an already existing 3D model into the game.

[optio]

About the late war Japanese bomber campaigns...

I think it depends on what the campaign creator wants. After all, some IJN&IJA units did continue to practice "standard" method of attack until the end of war, with some success(including the successful torpedo strike on USS Pennsylvania, as late as August 1945).

I would love the opportunity to fly as the member of the "Fuyo squadron", performing night time attacks from Kyushu to Okinawa...Although that would require to have a map which includes both regions, as well as a flyable Judy!