Yak-9T - incredible firepower (or maybe incredible tank's lack of armor?)

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by swiss

Not sure I understand what you want.
Anything smaller than 20mm cannot penetrate tanks, 37mm can, and the latter is everything but small caliber.

Japanese tanks can be killed by bullets as small as .50cal.
And what I want is some armor model that takes bullet size (or better remaining bullet energy after penetration-then for APHE the additlional chemical energy could be used, too) into account. So that not every penetrating hit is a kill.

Originally Posted by swiss

Btw: iirec Rudel mentioned setting some T34 on fire with 20mm guns, but only because of the tanks external fuel tank.

Hmm, T-34 did use diesel fuel, that does not burn instanteneusly, must have been a lucky hit.

[swiss]

Hmm, T-34 did use diesel fuel, that does not burn instantaneously, must have been a lucky hit.

An idea that crossed my mind too, then again phosphorus can light pretty much everything.
Feel free to download your very own copy of "stuka pilot".

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by swiss

An idea that crossed my mind too, then again phosphorus can light pretty much everything.
Feel free to download your very own copy of "stuka pilot".

Is this the same "Stuka Pilot" written by the guy that didn't even know that his aircraft used a dive siren?
If Rudel didn't understand something so basic about the operation of the aircraft that made him famous why would you consider anything else he wrote to be entirely factual?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by bladeracer

Is this the same "Stuka Pilot" written by the guy that didn't even know that his aircraft used a dive siren?
If Rudel didn't understand something so basic about the operation of the aircraft that made him famous why would you consider anything else he wrote to be entirely factual?

What are you referring too?

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by swiss

What are you referring too?

You haven't read Rudel's book?
He states that the Stuka did not have a siren and that the noise was simply a result of air passing through the dive brakes.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by bladeracer

You haven't read Rudel's book?
He states that the Stuka did not have a siren and that the noise was simply a result of air passing through the dive brakes.

Don't know which Stuka he was speaking of(only B models had sirens), couldn't find that passage either(Ballatine pdf Version).
Do you know the page number or can you narrow it down a bit?

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by swiss

Don't know which Stuka he was speaking of(only B models had sirens), couldn't find that passage either(Ballatine pdf Version).
Do you know the page number or can you narrow it down a bit?

It doesn't matter which model he was speaking of, his claim is that the dive scream was not deliberately generated by a siren, which we all know was indeed a siren.
I don't have the book handy but if you have it in PDF try searching it for references to the siren.
I thought the sirens were installed more by date than by model? Weren't D's also fitted with the siren early on alongside the B's? I know when the D's were converted to G's the sirens were removed as they weren't dive bombers.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

Japanese tanks can be killed by bullets as small as .50cal.

Not just Japanese AFV. Lots of light/early war AFV should be vulnerable to 0.50 caliber AP rounds.

Originally Posted by majorfailure

And what I want is some armor model that takes bullet size (or better remaining bullet energy after penetration-then for APHE the additlional chemical energy could be used, too) into account. So that not every penetrating hit is a kill.

This is a good addition to my proposed damage model where you have an intermediate "damaged" stage for AFV.

Projectile size is a pretty good substitute for complex math about shell composition, angle of attack, fragmentation, fuse reliability and all the rest of it when determining whether a hit does no practical damage, serious damage or kills a vehicle.

Originally Posted by majorfailure

Hmm, T-34 did use diesel fuel, that does not burn instanteneusly, must have been a lucky hit.

Or an explosive or incendiary round.