4.12.2 de-bugging

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Monty_Thrud

Some AA issues, German 88 AAA doesn't seem to throw up much flak, i ended up changing it for the Jap 75mm AAA.

Its been like that awhile, I used to use the same flak for both sides (Russian) in our squad campaigns in the end to stop biased accusations about red v blue flak efficiency.

If it was a placebo effect I'm not sure but when I used the Russian flak there were complaints from both team pilots, using German flak there were no complaints from the mud movers, and minimal from other pilots.

Originally Posted by Aviar

A small graphics bug concerning the following Stationary Airplanes:

IL-2M, 1942 (first series)

IL-2M, 1942 (later series)

*Note the floating helmets above the rear gunner stations. (see screenshots)

Aviar

All ok here Nvidia latest driver the only ac with the rear gunner helmet problem is the IL-2M, 1942 (later series)

Although it not really a "big" problem

Originally Posted by cacha

There is also a bug in the first russian P-47 mission(single missions\USSR\P-47\P-47 N1). The torpedo bombers that are supposed to attack the german convoy spawn underwater.

The aircraft are spawning at the water base next to the airfield, I switched runway ends and the missions ok now, I also bought the flight time (removed the delay) to start at the mission beginning for better timing.

Mission attached in case you haven't adjusted it yourself.

[sniperton]

Floating helmets on IL-2M 1942 stationary:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

All ok here Nvidia latest driver

Maybe I'm wrong, but I've read somewhere that pilot and crew are part of the model. So if one part of the gunner (the helmet) appears in a plane which is ripped of its crew, it's unlikely a driver issue, isn't it?

(I have and old M Radeon card with the latest drivers; the plane is a Russian stationary on the Kiev map)

EDIT: 2nd and 3rd image shows a stationary and a normal plane side by side on the Bessarabia map.

[Vendigo]

What happened to Kates? This mission worked perfectly under 4.11 but after I installed 4.12.1 Kates just won't lose altitude before attack ignoring the waipoints' altitudes!
Can anyone check this and tell me what's wrong this time, thanks!

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Vendigo

What happened to Kates? This mission worked perfectly under 4.11 but after I installed 4.12.1 Kates just won't lose altitude before attack ignoring the waipoints' altitudes!
Can anyone check this and tell me what's wrong this time, thanks

I bought the way points lower and out further but it looks like the AI routine has been changed or affected as the Kates with torps use a shallow dive bomb pattern for some reason instead of as in v4.11 they torpedoed correctly, it could be the new terrain anti collision AI as the Kates torping ships on open water works perfectly ok

AI might need tweaking.

[Vendigo]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

it looks like the AI routine has been changed or affected as the Kates with torps use a shallow dive bomb pattern for some reason instead of as in v4.11 they torpedoed correctly, it could be the new terrain anti collision AI as the Kates torping ships on open water works perfectly ok
AI might need tweaking.

Thank you for the comment on the issue that worries me so much.
4.12 Readme mentioned some "improvements" of B5N2 flight model, so I think it indeed could be that DT added anti terrain collision pattern that now prevents Kates from flying low when attacking Pear Harbour.
I put much effort into building Pearl Harbour attack missions (2 waves) with historical approach routes for Japanese planes, but now the Kates with torps are unable to fly correctly.
I hope that will be fixed in future patches!

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Vendigo

Thank you for the comment on the issue that worries me so much.
4.12 Readme mentioned some "improvements" of B5N2 flight model, so I think it indeed could be that DT added anti terrain collision pattern that now prevents Kates from flying low when attacking Pear Harbour.
I put much effort into building Pearl Harbour attack missions (2 waves) with historical approach routes for Japanese planes, but now the Kates with torps are unable to fly correctly.
I hope that will be fixed in future patches!

I took a look at it and my first impression is that something is wrong with B5N2 FM, if I use some other torpedo bombers they follow WP correctly but for some reason B5N2 refuse to lose alt when flown by AI. We will do something about it for next patch.

[Vendigo]

Originally Posted by FC99

We will do something about it for next patch.

Great news! Already looking forward to it!

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by sniperton

Floating helmets on IL-2M 1942 stationary:



Maybe I'm wrong, but I've read somewhere that pilot and crew are part of the model. So if one part of the gunner (the helmet) appears in a plane which is ripped of its crew, it's unlikely a driver issue, isn't it?

(I have and old M Radeon card with the latest drivers; the plane is a Russian stationary on the Kiev map)

EDIT: 2nd and 3rd image shows a stationary and a normal plane side by side on the Bessarabia map.

Just re-tested, the only ac with the problem is the IL-2M, 1942 (later series)

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Just re-tested, the only ac with the problem is the IL-2M, 1942 (later series)

Then check the 1942 M early series too. Both are affected on my PC.

[cacha]

Thanks!
It's amazing to see this game getting so much support seven years after its release.