One can see that people are moving on...

[Skoshi Tiger]

Hopefully the Developers are using SDK to create the BOM expansion. It could be that is is not mature enough to let mugs like us work with it.

Concidering the negativity displayed by the community I think they're well within their rights to withhold anything that is not ready to be released.

Lets face it, we've had the full mission builder for a while and only a small number of people are dedicated enough to build and release missions for it.

We can only hope.

[Feathered_IV]

Don't pin your hopes on an SDK. It's the silver bullet they will never get around to making.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Don't pin your hopes on an SDK. It's the silver bullet they will never get around to making.

We saw video's of the map builder years ago. In my opinion they'd be silly if they don't already have a set of software tools (which is really what the SDK is) to help in the creation of aircraft (and other objects) and the associated flight and damage models.

But even if they already have them, it does not mean that they are, or will ever be suitable for release to the public.

There isn't any silver bullets, like you say, and even with the right tools making maps, planes and other objects is a very time consuming process. I expect that getting them right is even more complex!

Cheers!

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

But even if they already have them, it does not mean that they are, or will ever be suitable for release to the public.

There isn't any silver bullets, like you say, and even with the right tools making maps, planes and other objects is a very time consuming process. I expect that getting them right is even more complex!
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Let`s remember that the reason for releasing the SDK is dividing CloD into two versions, namely the open and closed. The first is said to use all the abilities of the community while keeping mod lovers from cheating in closed-code games. That was theory.

Now I don`t think they said how it will be with Steam. It is great that a modded game should receive a VAC ban, although if the open code version users are not able to lay online then what`s the point in playing anyway?

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Now I don`t think they said how it will be with Steam. It is great that a modded game should receive a VAC ban, although if the open code version users are not able to lay online then what`s the point in playing anyway?

Depends on how the game implements it. Red Orchestra 1 uses VAC and you can play on modded servers- the server allows mods then you dont get a ban for using files that are modified. i imagine it would work the same.

VAC bans are engine- based. IL2 CoD uses its own engine so the devs would figure out how to implement it when using mods, it might be that servers can't run it and they make it so that servers with no mods dont allow people with modified files to join, rather than outright banning them. The system allows for mods if it is implemented correctly.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Don't pin your hopes on an SDK. It's the silver bullet they will never get around to making.

They have no need to release an SDK with the MMO on the horizon.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by tintifaxl

They have no need to release an SDK with the MMO on the horizon.

The game engine was designed to facilitate a number of different ventures and revenue streams, just because the developers mention developing an MMO doesn't mean all the other ventures and income sources have been canceled.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The game engine was designed to facilitate a number of different ventures and revenue streams, just because the developers mention developing an MMO doesn't mean all the other ventures and income sources have been canceled.

Oh yes it does, if one is a doom'n'gloomer.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by robtek

Oh yes it does, if one is a doom'n'gloomer.

Just what has 1C done to make us feel chipper? The doom and gloom comes from their failure to fix anything in this game. It's utterly pointless to start talking about other revenue streams and expansions when the original game is still unplayable and unfixed. They expect folks to get excited about future releases? I'm sure robtek is looking forward spending another couple years on the forum talking about how they are going to fix things but a lot of us would like them to actually fix it instead of just talking about it.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Force10

Just what has 1C done to make us feel chipper? The doom and gloom comes from their failure to fix anything in this game. It's utterly pointless to start talking about other revenue streams and expansions when the original game is still unplayable and unfixed. They expect folks to get excited about future releases? I'm sure robtek is looking forward spending another couple years on the forum talking about how they are going to fix things but a lot of us would like them to actually fix it instead of just talking about it.

Again its the game engine thats not working properly. I'm sure the publishers/investors/developers are well aware they will not be able fix COD or sell, Sequels or MMO's until the game engine is fixed. The fact that they are even mentioning developing an MMO is a good thing as it suggests they still believe they can fix the game engine, which is the fix for everything else.