Friday Update, April 6, 2012

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

In my opinion, while the house models and detail are outstanding for a flight sim, they are only barely good for ground simulators today´s standards.

From the flight sim and aesthetically point of view, there are three items where improvement need to be done to vastly improve the immersion, without which is no important how well done are the buildings or landscape items models:

- Ground surface texture at medium distance.
The nice detail texture and grass is good only for the few closer meters, which you almost don´t see never while flying. The medium distance texture looks always blurred and very low resolution, and I think it´s the bigger landscape flaw in COD right now and it makes spot of ground units very difficult as it fool your sense of scale. So I would add another detail level texture for medium distances and also improve the ground detail texture in cities.

- Landscape life.
For me this is the total immersion killer from a landscape point of view. You have very nicely landscape, but it is a dead landscape. Add some vehicles moving in the road or parked at the cities. Some birds, some animals, some smoke fires... and the magic is done. You have a breathtaking living landscape ( for people with systems that could move that at least ).

- Terrain blending and limits.
While the terrain tiles are very well done and are hardly noticeable but from very high altitudes there are two very clear ways to improve them. Airfields ground texture and blending with surrounding textures could be very improved so it fits in a more believable way.
Roads should impact the textures behind them, may be cutting the terrain tiles patches so roads become real terrain limits like in reality. Also primary roads look smaller than in-texture secondary ones, which looks estrange.

These are my constructive two cents for the landscape.

Thanks!

This is the reason I'm mad about the interactive tanks and flaks. I've to add that a ground vehicle simulator has different priorities... the objects on the landscape need to be far more detailed both in graphic engine and above all in the physical one.

With the introduction of drivable tanks you are exchanging the possibility to have complete and detailed flight sim for an application that can do many average things.

IMO the russian village is really well modelled! It's only that I'll see it in the 0.0001% of my time inflight.

[Osprey]

Hi Jatta, yes but you are flying the Spitfire and I have less trouble in the dogfight with it, but against somebody very good even being very good won't be enough. Still, good advice for it, i'm talking about the Hurricane which is what I normally fly.

And to all, it's about accuracy for me and not about trying to get stuff removed in order to gain advantage. Thanks.

[6S.Tamat]

well talking about accuracy is well known that the hurricane had a big disadvantage with the emil.

Then we can talk about the FM problems, and would be a long talk, but it is another argument.

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by Osprey

..., i'm talking about the Hurricane which is what I normally fly.

And to all, it's about accuracy for me and not about trying to get stuff removed in order to gain advantage. Thanks.

you're welcome!, well ok the Hurricane is a complete different issue, feels sluggish and heavy for my taste, maybe faster than Spits, but its maneuverability will get me killed at the present; never really learned it yet.

i hope the Spit isn't giving me bad habits, like getting lazy relying too much on super agility and such (i'm always trying to learn how to better keep my energy though); on the other hand, rookie mistakes made by 109s may be more easy to exploit... i have mostly one type of foe atm, so combat is becoming a rather patterned issue for me. (ok i lost a fight against a 109 some days ago but i was drunk )

[Luftwaffepilot]

please get rid of these blurry textures. It doesn't look good tbh.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

you're welcome!, well ok the Hurricane is a complete different issue, feels sluggish and heavy for my taste, maybe faster than Spits, but its maneuverability will get me killed at the present; never really learned it yet.

i hope the Spit isn't giving me bad habits, like getting lazy relying too much on super agility and such (i'm always trying to learn how to better keep my energy though); on the other hand, rookie mistakes made by 109s may be more easy to exploit... i have mostly one type of foe atm, so combat is becoming a rather patterned issue for me. (ok i lost a fight against a 109 some days ago but i was drunk )

Actually on ATAG I see too often lone 109s trying to follow read planes in turn-fight ... tsk tsk ...

[Il2Pongo]

I like the little shy german tank with a 75mm(Pz IV? Stug III?) peaking around the corner in a few shots.

[Stealth_Eagle]

Originally Posted by Il2Pongo

I like the little shy german tank with a 75mm(Pz IV? Stug III?) peaking around the corner in a few shots.

I see it as well. It appears to be a German PZ IV due to the hull shape and the gun fitted on it is not historical for the time period (didn't the PZ IV with L/43 come to service in late 1942. Forgive me if I am wrong).

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by 6S.Tamat

well talking about accuracy is well known that the hurricane had a big disadvantage with the emil.

Not in turning it didn't. My original post was about turning.

Why people are bringing up top speed and climb rates I don't know.

Originally Posted by klem

Well while the FMs are SNAFU here's a possibly non-historical tip you could try. Put on about 5 degrees of flap in the Rotol Hurricane (about 1-1.5 seconds Flap Down then Flap Neutral). Tightens the turns a bit.

I don't think the 109 elevator trim trick can be historically accurate or at least widely used or history would tell us that the 109 out-turned the Hurricane and Spitfire instead of the other way round.

Thankfully, an experience Hurricane crew member who agrees! I would rather blame the FM's than me - I've been flying too long

I do use flap when I have to but it totally burns my energy. Usually I will try to leave the fight when I've realised that the 109 pilot is not a beginner, but he's used to that too. I have force 109's into spins into the deck using flap, that's the most successful technique so far!

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Osprey

Not in turning it didn't. My original post was about turning.

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Thankfully, an experience Hurricane crew member who agrees! I would rather blame the FM's than me - I've been flying too long

I do use flap when I have to but it totally burns my energy. Usually I will try to leave the fight when I've realised that the 109 pilot is not a beginner, but he's used to that too. I have force 109's into spins into the deck using flap, that's the most successful technique so far!

Hi. What is the corner speed of the Hurri? What is your turning speed in combat? Please record a track next time, i am curious, how can the 109 outturn the Hurri. We fly 1v1 2v2 very often (usually i fly the red planes), and the 109 only chance the energy fight...

Originally Posted by Osprey

Why people are bringing up top speed and climb rates I don't know.

Because the level speed the only accurrate values, what you can measuring easily. If you have test values (or at least a track), we can discuss. The subjective feelings and speculation can not be taken seriously (IIRC none of us is a professional test pilot ).