Friday Update, April 6, 2012

[Rumcajs]

Originally Posted by Volksieg

Obviously don't quote me on this but wouldn't the clouds come under particles? I'm only guessing, mind, due to the similarity in consistency between dust, smoke and clouds. lol I hope so anyway......

I believe that the micro freezes associated with particles are because of many new objects need to be created instantly and delivered to the grafics card. Clouds remain there as a part of the environment. They don't change over time.
Not that I'm an expert on programming particle effects so take it with a grain of salt.

[Volksieg]

I just hope they do get fixed. lol I can see it now.....

"And we were just about to release the beta patch when we discovered clouds are causing performance issues. The patch will be ready....... in two weeks!"



In all seriousness, though, I doubt they will let that one slip by as, IIRC, that has been a major performance bugbear since day one.

Fingers crossed

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by Rumcajs

I believe that the micro freezes associated with particles are because of many new objects need to be created instantly and delivered to the grafics card. Clouds remain there as a part of the environment. They don't change over time.
Not that I'm an expert on programming particle effects so take it with a grain of salt.

Usually you have only one particle geometry quad loaded into memory, and use that to render all particles and/or you have a big enough limited array to store all that particles/transformations even when they are not necessary and/or you have all particles quads geometry joined and real time z-sorted recalculated in only one big dinamic geometry, wich is extremely fast for rendering.
Fieldrate and/or z-sorting are the mayor particles common problems. Fieldrate is usually not so problematic with good GPUs, so that could not be the problem here thought. Z-sorting are only a problem when you are sorting a very huge amont of particles.

But I don´t know what the problem can be here.

[Theshark888]

Originally Posted by Hood

What on earth is the point of providing updates for a game that hasn't yet been officially announced? What, really, is the point? Why not just say nothing as that would be less insulting.

+1

We've seen these types of screenshots before--mere eyecandy will not cut it anymore

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Jatta Raso, thank you for these very helpful tips. What name do you fly under in the ATAG Server?

i fly as UFO_113, i have to explain that i may have annoyed some on comms until i realized my mic is broke, i sounded from distorted to alien-like, so i use TS3 but to listen only (i'm getting a new one); i've been making good progress (6 months ago i was way worse in most aspects of CLoD) so i'm happy to talk about it

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

@Jatta Raso: You must be getting the worst pilots, your technique is good and precise but, in my squadron, any Bf109 wingman that would follow a Spit or Hurri on a right turn, I would have court-martialed...

~S~

well i get a bit of everything i suppose, but some of the best tend to fly on wings and i avoid those, as i usually go alone; anyway you'd see several blue that can't really resist giving some chase on turns, most without stretching the rope too much; those who blindly follow are few. plus there's horizontal turning fight and vertical turning fight, many of my encounters involve dodging vertical passes until i get an opening for a shot, by no means i'm saying tight turns alone will save your a$$ in Spits vs 109s; they just help a lot, combined with other stuff

also don't get the wrong idea, i don't think i'm an ace by all means, a good share of the effort comes from tactics, trying to put yourself in a good position for when a fight starts.. even when it means letting a lone blue sneak on your 6 and reacting at the last moment; there are ways and ways to have the surprise factor

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Theshark888

+1

We've seen these types of screenshots before--mere eyecandy will not cut it anymore

Here's on update on the performance code.....

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[Rumcajs]

Originally Posted by Chivas

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I expected something subtly more polished. The sequence "00010100001111" looks a bit rough.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

i fly as UFO_113, i have to explain that i may have annoyed some on comms until i realized my mic is broke, i sounded from distorted to alien-like, so i use TS3 but to listen only (i'm getting a new one); i've been making good progress (6 months ago i was way worse in most aspects of CLoD) so i'm happy to talk about it

Hopefully we'll have a chance to fly together -- once you get your mic fixed! LOL

TBH I tend to be in Osprey's camp re the underpowered Mk 1 RAF fighters. Like most I just want to see ALL (RAF and LW) flight models corrected to true historical parameters. It will make for more interesting encounters for both sides, IMHO.

Over the past few months I have radically changed the way I fly and fight in the RAF fighters. Athos provided me with some valuable feedback after watching some guncam footage of mine. MK.MR.X. posted some excellent videos recently which demonstrated exceptional deflection shooting. I'm nowhere near that level of skill, but I've been developing and practicing deflection shooting offline (using FMB aircraft that are more "cooperative") that has been helping me in online encounters. And per Osprey's post, I try more for the element of surprise and altitude than I had been doing in the past. I'm far more conscious of my energy state than ever before, and I will stifle my ego and disengage if I sense things are not going to my advantage.

But if I could just get a few more pounds of overboost......

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Rumcajs

I believe that the micro freezes associated with particles are because of many new objects need to be created instantly and delivered to the grafics card. Clouds remain there as a part of the environment. They don't change over time.
Not that I'm an expert on programming particle effects so take it with a grain of salt.

Oh yes they do, they are dynamic.

[jibo]

Well, few words are always better to hear than the sound of silence
regarding the screenshots, traditional houses are great but i'am less enthusiast
with the trees and terrain.

Now back to the game, i'am on your side but the process is very slow,
i know redoing the graphical part is painful and takes a while, but there is so
much remaining, it will take years before we reach a full game.
Plz consider releasing a SDK for the dynamical campaign so the community will take care of it.
Otherwise the lack of background content will hurt the game for a extended period of time.
It's saddens me when i read recent comments on amazon.de, newcomers are still very disappointed.

btw, good easter and good luck