AI is on top of my list

[katdogfizzow]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

Why pc pilots would prefer artificial intelegence over a real dynamic human is beyond me they will never get better, I take that back, they will get better then the AI (which will probably suck durring our lifetimes)....unless they cant get internet maybe.

Easily misunderstood if you haven't experienced the correctly set up AI in FMB. Although human players can be much more satisfying in dog fights (x 10), The AI pilots and gunners in il2:1946 can be simply incredible and realistic.

The AI will smoke you if you set up your mission correctly in FMB. My group has made over 100 and flown over 300 coop missions vs. only AI. Its a great experience. I'd love to see you in a wildcat against some AI ace zeros, or in a p40 in the desert against some AI 109s in an "end of an era" mission. You'll be going down. AI very realistic and can be almost as good as human in the right scenarios. This awesome AI was here 5 years ago!

Some simmers want to fly historical missions with 50 or more planes in formations. the only way to do that is with AI. So yes if I want to fly a historic mission, I prefer the AI in Il21946. I haven't attempted any AI missions in CloD as the ATAG human and AI server, as you say, is very satisfying. The combination of human and AI is as sweet as it gets...and it will only get better with time

[=FI=Scott]

The new ai in the latest 4.11 patch is a big improvement in classic IL2. Objectively I still don't think it is as unpredictable or engaging as BoB WoV's ai but it is still good and to me far superior to what we currently have in CloD. As these are both Maddox games 1C products (and if they haven't done so already) couldn't the dev's speak to the TD people who did the new 46 ai ?

[buddye]

Originally Posted by =FI=Scott

The new ai in the latest 4.11 patch is a big improvement in classic IL2. Objectively I still don't think it is as unpredictable or engaging as BoB WoV's ai but it is still good and to me far superior to what we currently have in CloD. As these are both Maddox games 1C products (and if they haven't done so already) couldn't the dev's speak to the TD people who did the new 46 ai ?

I agree that the IL2 4.11 patch and radio messages would be a improvement for COD but maybe the interfaces or databases have changed.

[Ctrl E]

Luthier - I understand if you cannot post a patch immediately fixing the graphics engine, but surely you can make a patch fixing the terrible AI of this game.

[smink1701]

I haven't fired up CloD for months and have been spending all my stick time with ROF. I thought I'd see what I've been missing and tried a QM with Advantage Axis. Got on the six of a Hurricane and gave him a quick burst and he just continued on like he was sight seeing. Gave him another short burst and the same reaction...which means no reaction. One more burst and down he went. What a waste of beautiful graphics. Whoever made the decision to release this non-simullator in its current state should get out of the busienss. Back on the shelf this dust collector goes...

[CrazySchmidt]

Originally Posted by smink1701

I haven't fired up CloD for months and have been spending all my stick time with ROF. I thought I'd see what I've been missing and tried a QM with Advantage Axis. Got on the six of a Hurricane and gave him a quick burst and he just continued on like he was sight seeing. Gave him another short burst and the same reaction...which means no reaction. One more burst and down he went. What a waste of beautiful graphics. Whoever made the decision to release this non-simullator in its current state should get out of the busienss. Back on the shelf this dust collector goes...

That particular mission is a great example of just how bad the AI is at the moment I agree!!

That scenario reproduces exactly how I feel every time I decide to give this another crack after a couple months away, instant disappointment, then back on the shelf through frustration.

CS.

[FC99]

Originally Posted by =FI=Scott

The new ai in the latest 4.11 patch is a big improvement in classic IL2. Objectively I still don't think it is as unpredictable or engaging as BoB WoV's ai but it is still good and to me far superior to what we currently have in CloD. As these are both Maddox games 1C products (and if they haven't done so already) couldn't the dev's speak to the TD people who did the new 46 ai ?

I don't have COD code(don't even have the game either ) so I don't know what issues they have with AI but it is virtually impossible that Il2 AI could be directly transfered to COD. OTOH no matter the current AI structure in COD lot of features from Il2 could be adjusted for COD relatively easy (or for any other combat flight sim). Whole decision making is sim independent and all you really need is bunch of variables which can be easily acquired from any game engine.

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

Luthier - I understand if you cannot post a patch immediately fixing the graphics engine, but surely you can make a patch fixing the terrible AI of this game.

If AI is that easy, everybody would get it right in the first try. Main reason why AI sucks in most games is because developers underestimate its complexity and time required for AI development.

[SlipBall]

I may be the only one here that enjoys the AI...I think the team did a great job on them.

[He111]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I may be the only one here that enjoys the AI...I think the team did a great job on them.

When I see Defiants banking left or right, allowing the gunner full view of the attacker @ 6 o'clock low, then I'll know reality has returned.

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[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I may be the only one here that enjoys the AI...I think the team did a great job on them.

Do you enjoy your mates crashing in the airfield because they like so much fly close to you even when you are landing? And that it´s only an example.